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I am new is there a way to switch between Ubuntu and android? Like be able to put it on sd card, I used to be able to switch between windows and Ubuntu on a portable hard drive or a USB stick on a computer. I am asking because I use apps for the blind I really don't want to mess up my phone. It is an LG Stylo 6.
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Hi, the LG Stylo 6 is not supported by Ubuntu Touch. Check this out for supported devices. If you really want to play and check Ubuntu Touch out, by a cheap supported phone like a Nexus 4 or 5 and take it from there. You can dual boot on some phones, but from experience with PC's it adds a layer of complication that is best avoided.
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@mrt10001
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@keneda I would do, but you can pick up a Nexus 4 at a fraction of the cost of some of the other phones and the install for UT is pretty straightforward. I used the simplicity of the Nexus 4 and 5 to learn how to strip phones, split screens to repair and install ROMs. The other one I would recommend to start is the OPO, but they have become like rocking horse manure to get hold of and have a battery issue, which is not so easy as the other two to replace. A Nexus 4 will get you up and running and thinking is this OS for me. If it is you can move on to the more complex installs.
This above is just my opinion, and everyone will have a different experience, but always if you are not sure, start simple and learn.
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Nexus 4 is a poor option in my opinion as it is low powered relative to more current options, it is likely to have battery life issues due to its age, and it will not get continued UT support after the rebase to 20.04. My recommendations would be Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro, Google Pixel 3a, or Volla Phone - all of which can run Waydroid, allowing many Android apps to be run in a Lineage 17.1 container running simultaneously with Ubuntu Touch.
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@totalsonic You miss the point, the nexus 4 or 5 is a very cheap starting phone which will give you an insight in UT. You can pick up a working one for under Ā£20 (UK), compared to Ā£60+ for the phones you have mentioned. For the cheap price you can mess with UT and really see if it is for you. If it is, then look at the larger phones. As for Waydroid, I know very few people unless they are enthusiasts will be bothered or technically competent to install it and get it up and running. One step at time works really well in the tech world. The cheapest Volla phone I have seen has been well over Ā£300, for running a phone OS that is either in Alpha or Beta is not a viable option for most peoples budget. Xiaomi are far more affordable but a major pain to unlock the bootloader, Google phones have their issues with battery life, and generally if you change the battery, you break the screen so that isn't a cheap endeavour.
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@mrt10001 - that strategy still doesn't make sense. If someone is used to a more current Android phone, and that specifically asked to be able to maintain some amount of Android app compatibility, then a Nexus 4 or 5 will not be able to achieve that goal for them, and will seem clunky and laggy relative to their prior smartphone experiences. As such it will not make a nice intro to UT, instead it will just impart a negative impression.
And that 20 pounds for these close to end of life devices will end up wasted (not just due to the age of the hardware, but also as they will likely lose continued UT support at some point later this year, after the 20.04 rebase) when it could have gone towards budgeting for a device that can feel snappy, can run some Android apps via Waydroid, and can be useful for the next years to come. As for installation of Waydroid being difficult for new users - this has gotten easier via its inclusion in the Waydroid Helper app available in the Open Store.Best regards,
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@totalsonic With Waydroid, it has got easier I certainly agree.
As for the older phones and tablets, nexus 4, nexus 5, BQ Aquaris E4.5, Nexus 7, OPO, they just work. They work well. I have not found them to be laggy, slow, crash etc. The Nexus 5 and 7 will charge wirelessly. There are a lot more pluses than minuses. Ā£20 for a smart phone that works is a bargain. When you have done with it, recycle it or give it to the youngsters to use as a tablet and play games on. You can also pop the back off quite easily and replace the battery very easily, try doing that one a Oneplus 3 or a Redmi 7.
You also talk about running Android apps in Waydroid, that's all well and good, until they crash, or a phone update hoses the install and you have to start again. You still cannot do things on it such as Internet banking which these days you require for validation to access online accounts.
There is a lot that will come in the future I know, but at the moment I am certainly of the view when you start out, keep it simple. Learn as you go along and when you get used to UT and all its foibles (or as many as you find), that's the time to get a better device. -
@mrt10001 said in Can I Have both for awhile?:
You still cannot do things on it such as Internet banking which these days you require for validation to access online accounts.
You shouldn't do that anyway so no issue there!
@totalsonic said in Can I Have both for awhile?:
Nexus 4 is a poor option in my opinion as it is low powered relative to more current options, it is likely to have battery life issues due to its age, and it will not get continued UT support after the rebase to 20.04.
The battery is not a issue at all thanks to these guys : https://www.polarcell.de/
Many Nexus 5 users have reported their batteries to be very reliable!
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