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Move from Telegram to Signal?

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    • K Offline
      ktatar156
      last edited by 7 Jan 2023, 21:42

      Hi all!
      Did you consider to move Telegram UT Group to the Signal service?
      Considering notable criticism by cryptography experts, but what is more important, lack of full open source support (backend), maybe we should switch to more transparent Signal communication app?

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        Moem
        last edited by Moem 1 Jul 2023, 22:11 7 Jan 2023, 22:10

        I think this idea will not really go anywhere as long as the native Signal-compatible app Axolotl is in a less than usable state. The trouble with Signal is that it's not fully open source either, so the small, small team of Axolotl devs* have to painstakingly reverse-engineer after every change in the official Signal app.

        The people behind Telegram, however, are much more willing to work with our devs and that is why the native Telegram app works well.

        (* who are doing the best they can, and it's appreciated!)

        Is currently using an Op5t
        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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          ktatar156 @Moem
          last edited by 7 Jan 2023, 22:57

          @moem said in Move from Telegram to Signal?:

          I think this idea will not really go anywhere as long as the native Signal-compatible app Axolotl is in a less than usable state. The trouble with Signal is that it's not fully open source either, so the small, small team of Axolotl devs* have to painstakingly reverse-engineer after every change in the official Signal app.

          The people behind Telegram, however, are much more willing to work with our devs and that is why the native Telegram app works well.

          (* who are doing the best they can, and it's appreciated!)

          Thanks for explanation... I thought that Signal is 'fully' open source in contrary to Telegram...

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            PhoenixLandPirat @ktatar156
            last edited by 8 Jan 2023, 00:26

            @ktatar156 we have telegram and matrix for our main communicatioms, matrix is fully open source, it has emcryption, but our rooms and spaces are public so theyre unencrypted.

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              Moem @ktatar156
              last edited by 8 Jan 2023, 01:20

              @ktatar156 said in Move from Telegram to Signal?:

              I thought that Signal is 'fully' open source in contrary to Telegram...

              I used to think so too, but that is no longer the case.

              Is currently using an Op5t
              Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                jin.diggs
                last edited by 19 Jan 2023, 09:01

                There is no difference in terms of security, very similar technology. The rest of security concerns depends on your relationship to these providers and your place of residence.

                If you want to secure your messages, add VPN config.

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                https://ushby.org - Now Hiring.

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                  RedXXIII
                  last edited by 21 Jan 2023, 08:39

                  Maybe we should be using Matrix more often? Cinny and the new FluffyChat apps are great and promising 🙂 Or maybe Telegram is still offering stuff that can t be found with Matrix? By the way I recommend zwebtelegram in addition to teleports 😉

                  Fairphone 3+ / BQ Aquaris M10 FHD / BQ Aquaris E5

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                    PhoenixLandPirat @RedXXIII
                    last edited by 21 Jan 2023, 14:04

                    @redxxiii matrix is fantasic, we have a ubports space so people can easily find related rooms without having to ask people to redirect them to the right place.

                    Issue is onboarding, and no great matrix app on ubuntu touch.

                    Fluffychat is okay, and cinny is great in desktop mode but not fantastic in mobile mode, I have dreams that we'll have neochat or something as good someday, but neochat requres newer qt.

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