@3arn0wl @andybleaden
The pinephone is very exciting in deed! I can't wait to actually try it out, its cheep enough for most people that they can grab one without worrying to much about their bottom line, as well which is great!

@andybleaden @Stefano
The OP3 port is looking amazing, cant wait to see it in the official installer, for anyone with a OP3 to easily install.
I think the OP5 is gonna be worked on after that, but I'm not sure since it's Vince's main device atm, and I believe that Treble is still an issue.

I'm a big fan of the OnePlus devices personally, and the more OnePlus devices with an ubuntu port, the better, I hope that Halium gets support for newer versions of android, so we can get a convergence OnePlus device with MHL out, but thats a distant future it seems.

@makeixo I dont know where you're getting "thin skinned" from, I'm just stating facts.

We like criticism, criticism is welcome here, as it should be with all projects, as long as its constructive, and done in a polite manner, constructive criticism is ultimately good.

What happened was that you suggested something, that being that the community should collectively choose one or two device's to work on, and I replied with reasons that that wouldn't happen.

In rare cases we might get a pinephone, but that's the exception to the rule, because the stars aligned.

@makeixo If you can get devs together to do that then sure, but the people porting these devices are volunteers, they're using phones they bought themselves, and phones they want to see Ubuntu Touch on.

People have busy lives, it only takes a new relationship, a change in job, or a new family member, for volunteering to become something they cant do, or have to strip back a lot.

Then there's also the fact that if we all came to a decision on what phone we should port to (Which is unlikely, because everyone has a different favorite device), then the volunteers would have to go out of there way to purchase said device, which may not be viable for many people.

Even with that considered, the community will also want a say, and people might want Ubuntu Touch to be ported to the OnePlus 7 Pro, or the Samsung galaxy 10 note, both which cant be ported to yet, because Halium doesn't support android 8/9 (not sure about android 7), but they might want Ubuntu touch ported to those devices, because they're high end, top of the line, phones, which ubuntu touch will fly on, and will be great convergence devices.

However, the community might also say that they want Ubuntu Touch ported to a wileyfox phone, or a cheaper huawei because the cheaper a device is, the easier it is for someone to purchase said devices.

Everyone is different, and everyone prefers different devices, for different reasons, and sometimes things will get started, and not finished, and thats just life, especially when you're dealing with volunteers.

The debian version of minetest seems to work okay, I only got to the homepage, didn't bother going any further, especially since you'd need a keyboard and mouse for that edition, or at least a controller, IDK if minetest allows usage of a gamepad, but I dont think the debian version is convergent.

@Lindisfarne That depends on what homeserver you use, if you use riot.im/app then you use the matrix.org homeserver, type that in.

Theres been a lot of updates on Matrix's side and umatricks hasn't been updated in a VERY long time, so it might be broken, but its worth a shot.

uMatricks has video calling, I dont know if it still works, however, if it does, someone might be able to look at the code, take the a/v part, and build a new UI, to make a great a/v only app.

@marlboro50 Ring to my knowledge works like Tox, and we can't have Tox because it needs to ping everyone very frequently, which means, either you wont get messages/call's unless you're in the app when someone calls you, or you'll have to make an exemption for the app using Ubuntu Tweak Tools, so it can get around the limited background services.

My favourite so far is the one on the right, just needs to the right colour

I also like this one, but I think this is asking for legal issues honestly.

@dtarrant we don't keep tags on any identifyers other than location, that means we don't know your age, your eye colour, or what's between your legs.

The question for "how to get women interested" it seems to be fairly common for women to like Bejeweled and games like that, then men, women seem to prefer Instagram, over men, but what the persentages are, I'm unaware, the difference in Instagram usage for example, could be less than one percent.

Like I use Instagram a lot more than most of my friends who are women, but I mean if it is that 49% of women don't like Instagram as much as men, then that's almost 50/50.

The persentage of people who have an account on the service is 49.7 men and 50.3 women but that's not usage or how much each gender likes the service.

However this is also like saying "how do we get men into Ubuntu touch" and then me suggesting that we add cars and wallpaper of women, its true that a lot of guys like cars, and seems to be the case that men prefer cars than women, but I don't know if the equation quite works out, and if it does, I don't think it should impact our decision for the os moving forward.

Everyone is different, your wife, daughter and sister, aren't the same person, they won't have exactly the same likes and dislikes, so what would draw one to use Ubuntu touch, most likely, wouldn't draw the other.

I don't know your wife, but I think the best way to make Ubuntu touch appeal to your wife, is by asking her, what she likes, and what she uses, and why she likes and uses it.

Fix things for you, and fix things for people around you, and people will come, perhaps the thing that you fix for your wife, doesn't interest any women but brings more men on board, and the more the merrier regardless there background, it seems to me.

@redi I absolutely agree, you can only do none-encrypted direct messages at the moment, and until Ubuntu Touch updates the version of qt, we aren't getting any updates for a while.

HOWEVER, it is one of "our" apps that has quite a few devs working on it, and seemingly somewhat Beaver-ishly on.

Files are being merged soon here
Synchronization is here
And the keyboard bug is Here

General issues/all issues are here

So yeah, I agree, Kaidan isn't really usable atm, however, I have a lot of faith in the developers to improve it, and it will be very usable by the time we have a qt 5.12 on our devices.

(looks like Kaidan might be getting Multimedia support tomorrow)