Hey guys, I just need a little help

I'm looking for mine, do you know which one it is?

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@Lakotaubp said in "UbuntuTouch" name:

@tigerpro I'm afraid calling it “Ultimate Touch” might attract the wrong sort of attention : )

Super Smash Bros Ultimate Touch.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the idea, to me it seems far to android-y.

I like Ubuntu touch because it's Ubuntu touch, and I like it's personality.

I don't mind some ideas, but I do much prefer the style of homepage that I've seen before.

I'll try and find it, but it looked a bit like the today scope, except only had the weather and some apps.

Personally, I think the homescreen would be nice if it you could edit a bit more, if you could have your weather, your row of apps, your row of music or friends or what ever you want, but I think it needs to keep the unique feel, I think if it wants to, it can be a bit more KDE or gnome inspired.

There's a Android launcher which basically adds the windows 10 start button to your phone, I don't mind it, as it feels decent to me, but it's just windows 10 styled, I think we would be better imitating that, as it seems more like our kind of feeling than Android default.

Another problem I see, is that you swipe from the left to get your launcher, then you pull it all the way to get home, then you pull down from the bottom to access all apps.

The app draw means, you pull it from left to right slightly, you have your pinned apps, you pull it more and you have all your apps.

It's quicker and more responsive, it might not be editable at the moment, but my opinion is that, you've got the coding skills, I bet you could make the app draw look and feel amazing and add new ability's to it, and make it keep it in the feeling and style of Ubuntu touch.

That's just my opinion on the matter.

Did someone say pinephone?! How is the progress with the pinephone? What things will be fixed, or will still be broken when we move to the new kernel?

With qt 5.12 and the Lomiri work with manjaro, will we see more cross platform app development? Will we see more click apps on the manjaro base, will we see more plasma apps on Ubuntu Touch, etc, or will there still be to many differences, such as Ubuntus life cycle, and that some kde apps (neochat for example) and Manjaro using qt 5.15, and different package management on different platforms?

Are there efforts between different projects, to try and minimise fragmentation?

@AppLee said in PineTab Anyone?:

But people usually use the back camera more...

On a Tablet?

I don't think most people go around taking photos with there tablets, I think people want better front cameras, because on a tablet you're more likely to use it, when you're video calling family or friends, you know.

What we have:

• Signal
  Theres a beta app called axolotl, which allows conversations over the signal protocal
  https://open-store.io/app/textsecure.nanuc

• Dekko
  Dekko does have multi-account support
  https://open-store.io/app/dekko2.dekkoproject

• GPS
  we have the feature, IDK how well it works, depends on device I guess, but wont be as accurate as Google.

• Nextcloud
  We have multiple apps for Nextcloud, we have a news app, notes app, calendar, and some others, however we have no full sync option, you cant for example sync your music folder to your nextcloud account.

• adblock
  We have a separate app for ad blocking, this means every ad in every app will be blocked however, it doesn't allow you to pick and choose which apps or websites get a free pass.
  https://open-store.io/app/uadblock.mariogrip

What doesnt work.

• Whatsapp
  There are only 3 ways to message people using whatsapp on Ubuntu Touch, but both require having whatsapp on a android or ios device. One way is by using a whatsapp webapp, which wont give you notifications, or you could set up a matrix bridge, which would give you notifications via fluffychat, but it'd cost you, and you'd have to set it up,

Theres also the option of anbox, but thats more of a future plan for android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1676/development-testers-for-anbox

• Syncing
  we have no app that syncs/backups, this is partially due to background services and confinement not being flexible enough to allow for a syncing app in the OpenStore.

For device specifics, I couldn't tell you how well any of them work, I only have a OPO and OP3 running Ubuntu Touch.

There has been some more interest in Podbird and what we should do with it moving forward, it was suggested to make a forum post about it so thats what this forums about!

Now that we have arm64 builds in the ubports installer, it's a lot easier for people to install and test arm64 applications.

If anyone has any apps they'd like to be tested on arm64 please reply here with a file/link to a file.

This may also be a good place to talk about hurdles compiling apps for arm64.

Thanks you

@3arn0wl @andybleaden
The pinephone is very exciting in deed! I can't wait to actually try it out, its cheep enough for most people that they can grab one without worrying to much about their bottom line, as well which is great!

@andybleaden @Stefano
The OP3 port is looking amazing, cant wait to see it in the official installer, for anyone with a OP3 to easily install.
I think the OP5 is gonna be worked on after that, but I'm not sure since it's Vince's main device atm, and I believe that Treble is still an issue.

I'm a big fan of the OnePlus devices personally, and the more OnePlus devices with an ubuntu port, the better, I hope that Halium gets support for newer versions of android, so we can get a convergence OnePlus device with MHL out, but thats a distant future it seems.

@makeixo If you can get devs together to do that then sure, but the people porting these devices are volunteers, they're using phones they bought themselves, and phones they want to see Ubuntu Touch on.

People have busy lives, it only takes a new relationship, a change in job, or a new family member, for volunteering to become something they cant do, or have to strip back a lot.

Then there's also the fact that if we all came to a decision on what phone we should port to (Which is unlikely, because everyone has a different favorite device), then the volunteers would have to go out of there way to purchase said device, which may not be viable for many people.

Even with that considered, the community will also want a say, and people might want Ubuntu Touch to be ported to the OnePlus 7 Pro, or the Samsung galaxy 10 note, both which cant be ported to yet, because Halium doesn't support android 8/9 (not sure about android 7), but they might want Ubuntu touch ported to those devices, because they're high end, top of the line, phones, which ubuntu touch will fly on, and will be great convergence devices.

However, the community might also say that they want Ubuntu Touch ported to a wileyfox phone, or a cheaper huawei because the cheaper a device is, the easier it is for someone to purchase said devices.

Everyone is different, and everyone prefers different devices, for different reasons, and sometimes things will get started, and not finished, and thats just life, especially when you're dealing with volunteers.

@fakone you can already make Ubuntu Touch apps in rust using clickable, the issue is more that qt/qml doesnt have good bindings for rust, but yes you can make apps in rust for ubuntu touch.

@markatrafik I Think its fair to say that Ubuntu Touch is absolutely "phoning home" but most likely none of it will be to google, a lot of data that's sent to google is with there priority apps, not the open source kernel, or the priority drivers.

The reason the PinePhone has kill switches, isn't because of the OS on top, but because if you use a sim, youre telling phone operators where you are at all time, you're giving them data and the only way to not do that is to turn off the modem.

Theres other bits of hidden software to, but the chances that its google is extremely low, because why add spyware there when you already have so much spyware that works a lot easier for you, in your apps that are default on all android phones?

@guru I'm pretty sure thats what Markatafik did in there reply.

@guru only as much as your linux desktop is phoning home to amd or nvidia.
the android kernel is altered linux, and is open source so its only the drivers and I dont see why snapdragon would make drivers that call google.

@keneda said in FSF High Priority Projects:

Now Ubuntu Touch is not Ubuntu desktop, so i assume the closed source software included in the first, is not necesserally present in the second.

The main point is drivers, and ubuntu touch cannot work 100% on many if on any mobile device, without closed source software.

@mateo_salta maybe it should just be added to the bluetooth indicator instead of making a seperate one for it

@keneda all my devices support my usb-c earphoes on android but none on Ubuntu Touch, so it isnt just a nexus issue, howeber, I dothink its specifically a porting issue, and since only a minority of people have or use usb-c dacs, its either over looked, or difficult to debug.

@siucdude yeah just doesnt work yet

I think its a bit to much, but having 2 folds that line up with the wing would look fantastic in my po!!

@josele13 flutter support has been talked about for a while, I think the standpoint is still “Flutter will probably work and come with Ubuntu 20.04”