Hey guys, I just need a little help
I'm looking for mine, do you know which one it is?
Personally I'm not a big fan of the idea, to me it seems far to android-y.
I like Ubuntu touch because it's Ubuntu touch, and I like it's personality.
I don't mind some ideas, but I do much prefer the style of homepage that I've seen before.
I'll try and find it, but it looked a bit like the today scope, except only had the weather and some apps.
Personally, I think the homescreen would be nice if it you could edit a bit more, if you could have your weather, your row of apps, your row of music or friends or what ever you want, but I think it needs to keep the unique feel, I think if it wants to, it can be a bit more KDE or gnome inspired.
There's a Android launcher which basically adds the windows 10 start button to your phone, I don't mind it, as it feels decent to me, but it's just windows 10 styled, I think we would be better imitating that, as it seems more like our kind of feeling than Android default.
Another problem I see, is that you swipe from the left to get your launcher, then you pull it all the way to get home, then you pull down from the bottom to access all apps.
The app draw means, you pull it from left to right slightly, you have your pinned apps, you pull it more and you have all your apps.
It's quicker and more responsive, it might not be editable at the moment, but my opinion is that, you've got the coding skills, I bet you could make the app draw look and feel amazing and add new ability's to it, and make it keep it in the feeling and style of Ubuntu touch.
That's just my opinion on the matter.
But people usually use the back camera more...
On a Tablet?
I don't think most people go around taking photos with there tablets, I think people want better front cameras, because on a tablet you're more likely to use it, when you're video calling family or friends, you know.
What we have:
Theres a beta app called axolotl, which allows conversations over the signal protocal
Dekko does have multi-account support
we have the feature, IDK how well it works, depends on device I guess, but wont be as accurate as Google.
We have multiple apps for Nextcloud, we have a news app, notes app, calendar, and some others, however we have no full sync option, you cant for example sync your music folder to your nextcloud account.
We have a separate app for ad blocking, this means every ad in every app will be blocked however, it doesn't allow you to pick and choose which apps or websites get a free pass.
What doesnt work.
Theres also the option of anbox, but thats more of a future plan for android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
For device specifics, I couldn't tell you how well any of them work, I only have a OPO and OP3 running Ubuntu Touch.
Now that we have arm64 builds in the ubports installer, it's a lot easier for people to install and test arm64 applications.
If anyone has any apps they'd like to be tested on arm64 please reply here with a file/link to a file.
This may also be a good place to talk about hurdles compiling apps for arm64.
The pinephone is very exciting in deed! I can't wait to actually try it out, its cheep enough for most people that they can grab one without worrying to much about their bottom line, as well which is great!
The OP3 port is looking amazing, cant wait to see it in the official installer, for anyone with a OP3 to easily install.
I think the OP5 is gonna be worked on after that, but I'm not sure since it's Vince's main device atm, and I believe that Treble is still an issue.
I'm a big fan of the OnePlus devices personally, and the more OnePlus devices with an ubuntu port, the better, I hope that Halium gets support for newer versions of android, so we can get a convergence OnePlus device with MHL out, but thats a distant future it seems.
@makeixo If you can get devs together to do that then sure, but the people porting these devices are volunteers, they're using phones they bought themselves, and phones they want to see Ubuntu Touch on.
People have busy lives, it only takes a new relationship, a change in job, or a new family member, for volunteering to become something they cant do, or have to strip back a lot.
Then there's also the fact that if we all came to a decision on what phone we should port to (Which is unlikely, because everyone has a different favorite device), then the volunteers would have to go out of there way to purchase said device, which may not be viable for many people.
Even with that considered, the community will also want a say, and people might want Ubuntu Touch to be ported to the OnePlus 7 Pro, or the Samsung galaxy 10 note, both which cant be ported to yet, because Halium doesn't support android 8/9 (not sure about android 7), but they might want Ubuntu touch ported to those devices, because they're high end, top of the line, phones, which ubuntu touch will fly on, and will be great convergence devices.
However, the community might also say that they want Ubuntu Touch ported to a wileyfox phone, or a cheaper huawei because the cheaper a device is, the easier it is for someone to purchase said devices.
Everyone is different, and everyone prefers different devices, for different reasons, and sometimes things will get started, and not finished, and thats just life, especially when you're dealing with volunteers.
Are there apparmor denials in /var//log/syslog that happen when you attempt to open the photo editor page?
Yes, it does give me some error's pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/zkpX8SVb8f/
Do you have a log of the gallery app?
I got a log for that at pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/5ZyYzmPg8b/
I've just proposed a huge change to an updated PDF plug-in
I got an email saying that you proposed a fix to replace the private API, and I thought, damn I was just 10 minutes to early, fantastic work from everyone who's worked on this all!
I think the OP3/3t needs a different camera app and backend, which is not yet a default part of the system
Maybe, IDK but the camera shows the preview, and can focus, it just doesn't save the photo when I press the button, and it hadn't been an issue before I updated to qt 5.12, but maybe when I install qt 5.12 it replaces the camera with a more mainline camera that doesnt work?
After upgrading the packages, and rebuilding the apparmor profiles (this can be done by running sudo aa-clickhook -f), it should be working again (it does here).
I trued updating by updating to the latest ubuntu ota, then repeating the instructions at the top, I rebooted and used sudo aa-clickhook -f and it didn't work, I tried the ubuntu-qa update command and it said everything was up to date, I tried to also use sudo aa-clickhook -f and see if it worked without rebooting, but that didn't work either, so perhaps there's extra problems with the OP3 and apparmor profiles?
I discovered a few other issues, I'm sure that your fix for the editing pictures will probably fix this problem, but I couldn't view a downloaded pdf in the document viewer, firstly it wont open from the browser, but if you save it to the documents folder, than you can open it, but it's just a black page, and you can't view it unless you tap on slideshow view.
Also the camera, if I try to take a photo, I get an error saying "Capture failed, restarting your device might fix the problem." it doesn't fix the problem, but its probably apparmor issues, that might be different on the OP3, than the devices that you're debugging on, or different between arm64 and armph?
@Alter If you have telegram on the desktop that the t.me link should work fine, I dont think you can join groups using the teleport's app itself, however if you dont have the app, you could give someone your user-handle, it should be possible to invite you or pull you into the group, which should than allow you to be part of the conversation!
Some apps I just want to see get more support, more features, or just be a bit faster.
I wish we got Fluffychat updates, Fluffychat still works really well on Ubuntu Touch, but compared to its android edition, it has a lot less features, and it isn't as fast as it could be, sometimes it has issues where it'll refuse to load new chats, and you have to remove all data and re-login to get fluffychat to update, unfortunately, it looks like we wont see any Fluffychat updates until we get flutter in Ubuntu Touch, which may or may not come when we move to Ubuntu 20.04, if it doesn't come than I worry that we wont have any actively developed matrix application, and if it does come when we move to Ubuntu 20.04, I worry about how long that may take.
I also want the call features of Matrix and/or Telegram which isn't something we have at the moment.
The gallery app needs some support to help organize your albums without manually having to in the album tab, because thats very tedious, in android, if you take a photo, thats in your default gallery view but nothing else, on other gallery apps the main view features every photo on your phone, but you can easily go and switch to a view which shows your photo by folder its in.
Perhaps the Gallery app on ubuntu touch can't do this, and if it could, would we want it to? I think we could use things like the way KDE uses tags, if you take a photo, the photo app automatically adds a tag with "camera", then if you select the camera folder it shows you every photo with the camera tag, this means people could tag there photos and despite there only being one photo, it could be in 2 different albums.
Talking about the camera app, there's a lot missing there to, little advanced features, it doesn't offer the ability to save as a raw format, none of that crazy blur around face technology, and little of the "auto-magically" AI making colours nicer, and improving sharpness also!
I do like the idea of new applications, but I think if we only talk about apps we miss, we might miss the basic things that we want from the core apps.
When it comes to new apps however:
Newpipe: I used to use Newpipe on android, I'd love a app like that on Ubuntu Touch, it lets you stream video, make it so it only streams audio, you can download music and audio, etc, it has lots of nice features, and the ability to play in the background, while saving battery life because your screen doesn't need to be on, and data because you're not streaming the whole video, is a big selling point.
Native Mastodon app: As it says on the box, native apps are usually just a lot nicer than web apps.
Mumble: Mumble is a great voice chat application, I often miss chats due to work or traveling, so it'd be nice to be able to join a mumble chat when I'm on the bus home from work, or on the train home, so that I dont miss out on some good productive talks.
Keypass: I use keypass often on my desktop, and it'd be nice to have a native convergent keypass application, the current web version isn't so easy to use in my po.
TheTrainLine: I don't need this at all, because the webview is fine, however thats only really when I know my route, or things are going well, the webview doesn't have nicitys such as telling you all the stops you pass, it doesn't tell you expected time of arrival if something goes wrong, and it can also hold all your tickets in a convenient way.
Kaidan: We had it for a short while on older devices but than it started to require newer versions of QT, and thus we lost it, but it'd be nice to have the xmpp app, get get those updates!
Blender: I wouldn't use it in phone mode unless just to show off, but Blender is a great tool for 3D animation, 2D animation, Video editing, Audio editing, etc, its something that you can do some good projects with, and so if I'm on the train home, and have a powerful enough phone, it'd be nice to have the option to plug it into a nexdock and edit some video and audio.
Kate: Another app I probably wouldn't use so much in phone mode, I think the other note apps work better in phone mode, but I wouldn't want to use as much on desktop, however Kate is an app I use often on laptop and desktop, so it'd be nice to have it available when I put the phone in convergent mode!
Yubico: I use yubico for 2FA so it's kinda difficult to login to some accounts without having something without an app that talks to the yubico key
Firefox convergent: I use firefox on my desktop, it can sync my bookmarks, my add-ons, passwords, etc, I can even right click and send a tab from my laptop to my desktop, it would be nice to be able to use desktop firefox when I'm using the phone on my desktop, however looking at all the work thats going in to try and make firefox work on the phone, it looks like it'll be desktop only if you want a half decent experience, and then use morph when you're in phone mode.
I wish firefox had the ability to go from the android look and feel when its small, to the desktop look and feel when its bigger, but it looks like thats not even close to a possible without a huge amount of work that no one wants to do.
On the OP3 it looks like most things work fine.
I do have some issues though:
As others have already stated the calander and clock crash.
Teleports doesn't show any of my messages
The messaging app doesn't display the coloured bubbles.
Lomiri's App drawer looks a bit weird, it usually renders 5 icons that fills the app drawer, now its missing a column, and thus leaves a notable space on the right of lomiri.
The Gallery app shows images fine, but when I go to try and edit a image to crop, it turns black and doesnt give me the option to crop.
Dekko just shows up as a white screen also.
I dont know if theres anything else you'd like me to test, try out etc, etc, but thats what I've found so far, a few big issues, but its been pretty stable tbh.
@scottbouch I use the OP3 with the wireless OnePlus earphones, and they work pretty fine, however, after I connect the earphones, I have to close the app then reopen it for the audio to come out of the earphones rather than the speakers, perhaps you might have the same bug?
If not then something is probably wrong in the bluetooth stack, bluetooth is a complex protocol!
In order to move forward, I'd say a good way to improve the user experience would be to add a customization feature to the circle indicator (sorry I don't remember it's proper name).
I dont think thats the best way to do things, to my understanding the circle will only be viewable in future, if you dont have any notifications on your welcome screen, i think maybe adding calender events that are happening today in the circle would be fine, but the original idea from canonical was to have events show up in a notification bubble on the welcome screen.
@danfro It was made around the same time as the music icon, etc, if I remember correctly, but it was never added to any publicly downloadable version of the OS, I think you might have had to download it in a qa-testing patch?
I dont know all I know is that it was in loads of screenshots back in the canonical days, but was never added to the OS.