It'd be nice to be able to get everything for install from Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager

normmmm · 10 Feb 2023, 05:05

On my Ubuntu computer I've got all my software and tools ect . through the Synaptic Package Manager. For example: android-sdk-platform-tools-c 28.02+6

I read an an article https://pixel.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unlock-bootloader-your pixel-3a-0198625/ and in the article a newer download was offered: platform-tools_r33.0.3-linux.zip

My question is: Am I asking for trouble going with the newer download. The site was an https site, but I don't know am I asking for trouble going with that download. Should I stick with the older download?

Lakotaubp · 10 Feb 2023, 06:39

@normmmm Sorry but not quite sure what you are asking. Anything you download on to your pc is not something to get an answer for here as we are concerned with Ubuntu Touch for mobile devices and nothing to do with Ubuntu OS.
If you are thinking og changing anything on your Pixel 3a with Ubuntu Touch on it, then no you only need to install our updates and downloads anything else is at your own risk.

messayisto · 10 Feb 2023, 07:16

@normmmm Do I understand correctly: You want to install Ubuntu Touch on your Pixel Smartphone? And you want to know if the Ubports Installer on your PC or laptop needs the newest version of fastboot and adb etc.? IIrc the version distributed by Synaptic is sufficient for the Installer.

normmmm · 10 Feb 2023, 22:54

Hi
Thanks for responding to my question. I bought a Pixel 3A phone so I can put Ubuntu Touch on it. The phone has not come to me with Ubuntu Touch installed on it. From what I understand I will be able to get Ubuntu Touch on my phone via a process where my computer and phone are working together with ADB on the computer and the ADB Daemond on the phone. So yes I need my computer in the beginning, right? On my Ubuntu computer I used the Synaptic Package Manager to install: ADB (along with: Android-libadb; android-libbase ; android-libboringssl ; android-libcrypto-utils ; android-libcutils ; android-log). Also, the process of getting Ubuntu Touch on a Pixel 3A necessitates that one get "Fastboot" on the phone. To get Fastboot the article I mentioned above offered a download for the computer. I guess the phone then gets the fastboot software from the computer??? I have the download, but Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager has it too, but an older version called: android-sdk-platform-tools-c 28,02+6. Have you heard of the software I mention in my original post?

UBPorts has some directions on how to do the install, but they are not complete. I have a new phone. It is barely out of its shipping box. I'm starting at square one. Does anything I mentioned above sound like part of the installation process that the UBPort's directions doesn't cover?

If people installing Ubuntu Touch on a Pixel 3A phone aren't doing what I'm doing, what are they doing? Do you have a complete set of instructions for me?

messayisto · 10 Feb 2023, 23:24

@normmmm Hmmm, if you are doing this the first time, I can only give you the advice to read all instructions for your device very very carefully.
Your device is listed here:
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/sargo
At the buttom of that site there are instructions for installing ubuntu touch; there are also useful links to this forum and the pixel 3/3a section. Please read there in detail as much as possible about your device! It seems, that you need to have a certain Android version on your device before installing ubuntu touch on it.
Concerning adb and fastboot: these programs are needed only on your computer. The versions provided by synaptic are sufficient.
(For the final installing process itself you have to connect your device with your computer via a usb-cable, I hope that you are aware of this.)

Lakotaubp · 11 Feb 2023, 07:04

@messayisto I second exactly what @messayisto says. Take your time read twice then if still in doubt ask questions again wi will not mind. Good luck.

MrT10001 · 12 Feb 2023, 10:33

@normmmm My advice. Keep it simple. Download Chrome for Ubuntu (NOT Chromium) and use the Chrome Android Phone tool to downgrade the phone to the correct version of Android.

Install Android Studio and run Fastboot and ADB in Terminal from the Platform Tools folder. You will get the latest version of ADB and Fastboot drivers - it works.

Read the Instructions and Forum posts and do not hesitate to ask if you get stuck.

Be prepared to start from step1, issues happen and starting from scratch can help resolve an issue.

Be very patient, sometimes it will appear that nothing is happening, but it is and takes time.

Persevere, you will get there in the end.

Oh and did I say, keep it simple. Command line foo is not always necessary and can create issues as much as causing head scratching when it does go wrong.

Best of luck, (well you don't need luck as it does work).

normmmm · 14 Feb 2023, 05:34

@mrt10001 @messayisto @MrT10001

Thank you. I've read your three posts. I've read other things online about Ubuntu Touch, and have watched some YouTubes on the subject as well. I'm taking my time. I want to do it right. I do hope I get Ubuntu Touch installed on my phone in the end. While I'm making this post and thanking you all, I do want to ask another question. I read in a post that was a year and eight months old about how one was not able to re-lock the bootloader. Has progress been made on that since it was posted? After I get Ubuntu Touch installed on my Pixel 3A phone, will I be able to re-lock the bootloader?

Thank you for your time
Normmmm

Moem · 14 Feb 2023, 09:02

@normmmm said in It'd be nice to be able to get everything for install from Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager:

After I get Ubuntu Touch installed on my Pixel 3A phone, will I be able to re-lock the bootloader?

Not sure whether you will be able to, but you should not try. It would most likely brick the device.

normmmm · 23 Feb 2023, 04:59

@moem @Lakotaubp @messayisto @MrT10001

Hi Guys,
Well, you all won't be too impressed with me today. I fumbled around for an embarrassingly long time and got to where I rebooted the bootloader, but after that I didn't see any way I could downgrade my Pixel 3A phone to Android 9.

On my Ubuntu computer I have: the UBPorts Installer. Android Studio, adb, fastboot, sdk-platform-tools, and sdk-manager. And on both my Pixel 3A and computer I have Telegram installed. I did message someone on the UBPortsTelegram group, but I'm new to Telegram. I was hoping to be able to talk rather than write messages. I figure that would make it easy for someone to help me. I'm not really a phone person, I just like linux and would like my phone more if it were on my phone. Anyway, I think Telegram is using my username: norm.

At the end of my day trying to get things to work, I shut down things mid process, so there is the possibility that nothing will ever works again.

I'm going to try again tomorrow probably around 1:00 California time. I can read any helpful advice you want to give me, or I can listen and talk; I've got a pair of headphones.

Thank you for your time
Normmmm
or
norm

Moem · 23 Feb 2023, 07:47

@normmmm said in It'd be nice to be able to get everything for install from Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager:

I didn't see any way I could downgrade my Pixel 3A phone to Android 9.

Sorry, I'm not a Pixel or even Android user, I don't have the experience to help you.

I did message someone on the UBPortsTelegram group, but I'm new to Telegram. I was hoping to be able to talk rather than write messages. I figure that would make it easy for someone to help me.

It's not. For most of us, chatting by writing and reading in the group is the easiest way. I see your messages there; hang in there, someone with experience may be around later to help you. Keep in mind that many of us are not in the same timezone as you are.

Lakotaubp · 23 Feb 2023, 09:01

@normmmm I do not have access to a pc/laptop for a few days but are the links and instructions in the Preparatory Step section and below on the device page? https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/sargo
Edit: If you click on the link to the android version you need then go to the top of that page there are instructions on using the Android Flash Tool. Have a read through those it is the method I used and very quick when you get into it but have a read through first then take things slowly.

arubislander · 23 Feb 2023, 16:40

@normmmm Maybe this video might help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdNGSdYCaDY

normmmm · 24 Feb 2023, 01:46

@arubislander @Lakotaubp @messayisto @Moem @MrT10001

Hi All,
So, I went to https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/sargo , and to me it looks like my phone needs to have Android 9 installed before using my Pixel 3A phone to go to the following site indicated in the Preparatory step.

Preparatory step
For Pixel 3A at site:
https://developers.google.com/android/images#sargo
Make sure to revert to factory image PQ3B.190801.002

Or is reverting to factory image PQ3B.190801.002 the same thing as installing Android 9?

from
Normmmm

arubislander · 24 Feb 2023, 05:43

@normmmm said in It'd be nice to be able to get everything for install from Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager:

Or is reverting to factory image PQ3B.190801.002 the same thing as installing Android 9?

Correct. The referenced factory image is the Android 9 version that is mentioned. Did you take a look at the YouTube link I posted?

Lakotaubp · 24 Feb 2023, 07:47

@normmmm To be extra clear the preparatory step will install the android9 version you need to install UT. You do not need tobe on android 9 to do the preparatory step.

normmmm · 26 Feb 2023, 04:10

@lakotaubp @arubislander @MrT10001 @Lakotaubp @Moem

Hi Guys,
Google wasn't letting me sign into Google Play Services once I was at https://developers.google.com/android/images#sargo for version Android 9 otherwise known as image PQ3B/190801.002. Yes, I've saw the PQ3B/190801.002 page with the Google Play Services "sign in" at the top right corner of the phone, but No, I wasn't able to get it on my new Pixel 3A phone because as I just said I wasn't able to sign in. The reason may be because I do have a phone with an IMEI number that starts with 35 (arublislander info), or because Google doesn't like me using a NFC Yubikey. The reason may well be the latter reason because I was able to unlock the OEM. Anyway, I don't know what else to do. Probably I need to talk to Google, but I have never been able to do that very well. I basically just wanted a phone that I could learn more about Linux on, and use to text, and make an occasional call. A less expensive phone plan was going to be part of all this. I'm not a power user; I'm not really even a phone person. I wouldn't have been that hard to please. I wouldn't have been that critical of Ubuntu Touch on the Pixel 3A. Anyway, my problem is not your problem I do realize that. I will check back one more time, any help or suggestions you give me will be appreciated.

Thank you for your time
Normmmm

P.S. I uninstalled Telegram. I originally installed it because I heard the UBPorts Project manager (I think that was his title) mention it on a YouTube UBPorts kickoff conference video.

arubislander · 26 Feb 2023, 07:37

@normmmm I don't understand.
Did you try to download the image on your phone's browser?
Please download the image to a computer. Or better yet, open the site on chrome. On a computer and use the flash link. Then follow the instructions.

Moem · 26 Feb 2023, 10:24

@normmmm said in It'd be nice to be able to get everything for install from Ubuntu's Synaptic Package Manager:

P.S. I uninstalled Telegram.

Okay, if you don't want or need to get installation help on the UT Welcome group, that is your choice.

By the way, I can't help you, so it's okay to stop mentioning me.

Lakotaubp · 26 Feb 2023, 11:42

@normmmm Please follow @arubislander's directions and use a laptop/pc to follow the links and download the correct android version and android flash tool.
Non of thiscan be done on the phone as it needs to be connected to the pc/laptop via a usb cable to flash the correct android 9.