Librem 5 Phone, progress reports
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@matteo Never read about confinement for Librem 5 pureOS version.
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@trainailleur the Evince demo is impressive. I was wondering if drag scrolling would work. And it does.
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@libremax said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:
@matteo Never read about confinement for Librem 5 pureOS version.
I suppose, it's why using apt commands are natively supported.If so it's great: they can actually install packages like if it were a real linux distro. Let's see if it will really be like that. Thank you for replying though.
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I believe that two devkits should have arrived with UBports folks recently.
Beyond that, I don’t have any more information. I hope that the boards survived shipping and that the developers can do something interesting with them.
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An Interresting speech of Purism CTO at CCCamp about mobile phone market and mobile who respects your freedom (Librem5) plus a few new pictures of device internal parts: https://media.ccc.de/v/Camp2019-10238-a_mobile_phone_that_respects_your_freedom#t=372
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Nice spec comparison of upcoming Linux phones: https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827
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Librem 5 Shipping Announcement
This does not sound very good to me, rather more like they are going to push a small number of alpha or beta devices out the door just so they can claim to meet their thrice-delayed shipping date. A further delay to get the product right would have appealed to me more.
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@trainailleur
I'm not surprised. Look at how much time it took them to confirm full specs. They were still vague back in June, the announced 2019 shipping date was never realistic. I always thought that PinePhone would be ready for mass production first, and it's looking like I may be right. That being said, Purism had a lot more R&D put into their device than Pine64 (not to mention the OS and software as well). I wish both companies success, we need both their phones. -
BTW those first small runs with milled cases are going to be costly! This is basically prototyping.
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@normandc said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:
@trainailleur
I'm not surprised. Look at how much time it took them to confirm full specs. They were still vague back in June, the announced 2019 shipping date was never realistic. I always thought that PinePhone would be ready for mass production first, and it's looking like I may be right. That being said, Purism had a lot more R&D put into their device than Pine64 (not to mention the OS and software as well). I wish both companies success, we need both their phones.Not surprised either, but shipping something half-baked simply to fulfill a technicality seems disingenuous to me, and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I do agree, we need them both, and I wish them both well, even if I'm a bit disappointed in Purism right now.
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It might not be the only reason. Take milled cases for example, tooling for injection moulding is very expensive, they're taking a prudent approach to get the dimensions and fit right before ordering the molds. I do agree that it's odd to ship early prototypes to backers/consumers.
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Librem 5 — Promise Delivery Chart
https://forums.puri.sm/t/librem-5-promise-delivery-chart/6959
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Bad press for Purism: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1133747-an-interview-with-zlatan-todoric-open-source-developer-former-purism-cto
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So four weeks after they loudly congratulated themselves on shipping the phone, they finally admit they didn't actually ship it. And in the course of said admission - which proves that they lied and dissembled for the past four weeks - they congratulate themselves once more on their own transparency. Good grief. I am rooting for their success, but they sure are hard to root for.
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@kalle-kruse said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:
Wait, this post says that all the backers that wanted a device from the Aspen batch have been moved to Birch, i.e. the shipment of their device will be delayed. It also says that the Aspen batch will only be delivered to 'developers and staff'. I would assume that members of the UBports team that have been working on the port would fall under the former. Yet when Purim was contacted regarding availability of devices to continue the work, they informed the team that the priority was to ship to backers first.
It does make me wonder if these Aspen devices exist at all, and if they do, if they were ever really going to ship them to backers...
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A while ago, before I was interested in UT, I had an unfortunate experience with the Youyota Sailfish tablet, unfortunately never delivered. I would have liked the project to have been successful! All I can remember from this experience is an unfortunate communication from some actors who tried to drown the fish to the end by trying to make it look like the tablet would one day be delivered! We know the rest....
I would really like the LIBREM 5 project to succeed for all those who have invested in it and for the customers. I hesitated but didn't buy.
Indeed, all this already requires clear and verified communication from PURISM to maintain trust. And so far, this does not seem to be the case because everyone is asking too many questions: where is TRUE the state of development of LiBREM 5, which will be TRUEly delivered and when......................... !!
