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Why no global BACK button/swipe motion?

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      AppLee @potet
      last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:03

      @potet
      When starting a swipe from the top, the app looses focus.
      A swipe from the bottom could be handled by the app, but it will be up to each app developer to use something like that.
      And it's far more complex than using a simple button.
      Developers can easily add alternative features if they wish...

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        Moem @CiberSheep
        last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:07

        @CiberSheep said in Why no global BACK button/swipe motion?:

        welcome tutorial that show the basic OS use

        Huh! Interesting. Where would one find that?

        Is currently using an Op5t
        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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          CiberSheep @Moem
          last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:12

          @Moem It should trigger just after the welcome wizard (on the first install)

          Another planet, another time, another universe!

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            Moem @CiberSheep
            last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:13

            @CiberSheep
            Thank you. I guess I've either decided to take it later (and then never done it, because apparently there is no way) or done so and forgotten.

            Is currently using an Op5t
            Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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              potet @AppLee
              last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 21:44

              @AppLee My suggestion was from the bottom, not from the top. I agree that it would have to stay within the current framework, and from the top would make no sense for usability either.

              As for it being more complex than a button - I see the point from a developing perspective, but I disagree from a user perspective. The back button is usually found on the top left, which is the least accessible point of the screen.

              Assuming this is a feature that would be useful but is difficult to implement, would it not be possible to write a standardized function of sorts that app developers could choose to implement in their apps at their own free will?

              If it would be good for users but complex for developers, maybe it could be possible to aid the developers by giving them some sort of tool box. But of course, I don't claim to have any expertise here - i simply think Username's concerns are valid, and made a suggestion for a possible solution. 🙂

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                cliffcoggin @CiberSheep
                last edited by 11 Oct 2020, 23:05

                @CiberSheep said in Why no global BACK button/swipe motion?:

                @Moem It should trigger just after the welcome wizard (on the first install)

                I have never seen it (because I did not install the OS,) nor can I find it with a DDG search. Can you point me to it please?

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                  CiberSheep @cliffcoggin
                  last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 01:53

                  @cliffcoggin the tutorial shoould have started after selecting time zone, language, etc on the first run. If not, that's a bug: could you fill an issue here?:
                  https://github.com/ubports/unity8/issues

                  Another planet, another time, another universe!

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                    Alter @CiberSheep
                    last edited by Alter 10 Dec 2020, 06:27 12 Oct 2020, 06:04

                    @CiberSheep said in Why no global BACK button/swipe motion?:

                    @cliffcoggin the tutorial shoould have started after selecting time zone, language, etc on the first run. If not, that's a bug: could you fill an issue here?:
                    https://github.com/ubports/unity8/issues

                    @CiberSheep & @NeoTheThird : there is a 'UT app' or Welcome app which, I believe, is installed by default. It has a menu with some useful links, but none of these point to a beginner tutorial. Could this be added?

                    Regular user, UT since 2020, Now: Volla Phone (20.04 Stable)

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                      AppLee @potet
                      last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 07:51

                      @potet
                      Sure having an example or something that can be easily integrated will help.

                      I find the return button easy to access, but I understand it might annoy some people.
                      If someone make such gesture easily reusable then I guess it will get some promotion here on the forum.

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                        cliffcoggin @CiberSheep
                        last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 10:25

                        @CiberSheep As I mentioned, I did not install or set up the OS so I would not have seen any tutorial, hence my question. I think it would be better to start a separate topic to avoid deflecting this one.

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                          marlboro50
                          last edited by marlboro50 10 Dec 2020, 23:13 12 Oct 2020, 23:12

                          a swipe from the bottom could open a sub menu with a back button as well as showing the open tabs. this might work with other apps as well.

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                            Giiba
                            last edited by 12 Oct 2020, 23:33

                            It is not like a global back command would suddenly solve this problem; every app would need to implement what 'back' means to it. The inconsistent nature of what back means on an Android system is always a frustration to me, and I think it solves fewer problems than it causes.

                            Sure in Morph it would be very obvious what back does, but I'd argue that an option to move the navigation bar to the bottom edge would be more useful. Half of the apps I regularly use don't have an obvious 'back' action; what should 'back' do when I'm viewing maps in Pure Maps, or when typing into the calculator? I agree with others that each app should consider this as oppsed to forcing a global option.

                            Back and Home are UI hangovers that have been improved away by the Lomiri UI. ☺

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