Development Planning 2023 ~ lets take over the world :)

arubislander

@domubpkm what would a strong Webber look like, over and above what it does now?

domubpkm

@arubislander means for me clean of bugs because it still has some and stuck as close as possible to ubuntu updates.

Lakotaubp

@domubpkm Should you not be taking those up with the app dev? Also dekko for Focal is getting a look at from what I understand.

Fla

I didn't expect to see any work on 22.04 right now, let alone 24.04. That would be amazing of course, but isn't it a bit too optimistic? I guess many problems will be found once 20.04 will be widely adopted, so you will have to work on that first.

And what about the stabilization on Lomiri on desktop, being fully included in Debian etc?

arubislander

@fla The idea is that all of that work will be done in parallel or at the very least in shorter cycles.
Trying to stabilise the current version 'first' is what got us in the situation of still being on xenial long after it went out of canonical support.

The idea now is, rather, to have the new features and fixes always going into the 'next' version, and where appropriate backporting them to the 'current' version. This has the advantage (among others) of making the 'current' version truly stable (i.e. no breaking changes, mostly bugfixes) while ensuring that the 'next' version will not be missing features present in the 'current' version. This will mean less regressions when moving to the 'next' version.

arubislander

@fla said in Development Planning 2023 ~ lets take over the world :

And what about the stabilization on Lomiri on desktop, being fully included in Debian etc?

It is thought Lomiri being in Debian (And other Distro bases) will attract the attention of Debian developers, or of developers of derivative distros who want to see Lomiri run well on theirs. That will result in patches being proposed to fix bugs, and maybe also features being implemented. All of this will spread the development load.

kugiigi

@fla I think they are after more on the momentum. The jump from 20.04 to 22.04/24.04 won't be as big as xenial to focal. There won't be renaming or moving to Gitlab. Many issues with deprecared stuffs have been fixed already. In this approach, we'll be closer to current version and getting stability in that version means longer time to have stable and updated system.

domubpkm

If I understand correctly https://gitlab.com/groups/ubports/development/core/-/milestones?state=opened , OTA-1 Focal is very close, but really, Focal will only be usable with OTA-2 (OTA-1 maintenance) which should theoretically follow quite quickly

kugiigi

I think one of the main thing that should be fixed are the issues after upgrading from xenial. The one I encountered for example was the difficulty in uninstalling/upgrading xenial version apps. I had to reboot multiple times and try different things to make them work correctly again

Homer

Happy to read about background service for clickable apps.
Will focal upgrades improve bluetooth experience?