[HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE

AmauryDBZ · 15 Sept 2023, 06:10

@lduboeuf thanks for your 'dirty hack' !
after installing it says I have to upgrade, but sudo apt upgrade returns

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E: Le répertoire d'archive /var/cache/apt/archives/partial n'existe pas. - Acquire (30: Read-only file system)

Any idea how to resolve ?
Moreover, is it possible to add an exception when hotspot is on ?

lduboeuf · 15 Sept 2023, 07:16

@AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

@lduboeuf thanks for your 'dirty hack' !
after installing it says I have to upgrade, but sudo apt upgrade returns

Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait            
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances          
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait          
Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait                 
Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled:                             
  libswresample3 libmediainfo0v5 libavcodec58 libavutil56 libopenexr24                            
  libsdl2-2.0-0                                  
Learn more about Ubuntu Pro at https://ubuntu.com/pro                                             
W: Verrou non utilisé pour le fichier /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend en lecture seule                
W: Verrou non utilisé pour le fichier /var/lib/dpkg/lock en lecture seule                         
E: Le répertoire d'archive /var/cache/apt/archives/partial n'existe pas. - Acquire (30: Read-only file system)

Any idea how to resolve ?
Moreover, is it possible to add an exception when hotspot is on ?

Well, your device must be up to date before doing any ubports-qa things.
You can either reinstall UT or go by mouting rw the partition and then upgrade.

AmauryDBZ · 15 Sept 2023, 07:27

@lduboeuf said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

by mouting rw the partition and then upgrade.

do you have a tutorial ?

lduboeuf · 15 Sept 2023, 08:02

@AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

@lduboeuf said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

by mouting rw the partition and then upgrade.

do you have a tutorial ?

Well, if you ask, maybe you don't know the possible consequences ?
If ok then remount rw the partition: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
then sudo apt upgrade

AmauryDBZ · 15 Sept 2023, 09:21

@lduboeuf you're right I have no idea of what consequence it could have ! Thanks for your help !

To come back on the subject of this topic, would it be possible to add an exception when the hotspot is activated ?

lduboeuf · 15 Sept 2023, 09:35

@AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

@lduboeuf you're right I have no idea of what consequence it could have ! Thanks for your help !

To come back on the subject of this topic, would it be possible to add an exception when the hotspot is activated ?

Humm, what would be the bahavior for hotspot, if enable then auto switch to 4G ?

AmauryDBZ · 15 Sept 2023, 09:43

@lduboeuf I would have say if enable stay on 4G even if the screen shutsdown, but that's the idea.

lduboeuf · 15 Sept 2023, 10:34

@AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

@lduboeuf I would have say if enable stay on 4G even if the screen shutsdown, but that's the idea.

ah ok but might not be related to my work around. It only toggles on 4G when request data and toggle 2G when data off.

AmauryDBZ · 17 Sept 2023, 12:19

@lduboeuf sorry I didn't understand that the behavior of your hack was different from @lkroll's.

AmauryDBZ · 19 Sept 2023, 14:47

@lkroll Thanks a lot for your script, works like a charm !
As I said to @lduboeuf , I was wondering if it could be possible to add some exceptions ?
For instance, 4G could be maintained when the device is charging, or when hotspot activated, or even when an specific app is running (Futify for me).

lduboeuf · 19 Sept 2023, 15:04

@AmauryDBZ said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

@lkroll Thanks a lot for your script, works like a charm !
As I said to @lduboeuf , I was wondering if it could be possible to add some exceptions ?
For instance, 4G could be maintained when the device is charging, or when hotspot activated, or even when an specific app is running (Futify for me).

Of course it should be possible but takes time. But would be better to look at the root cause, why LTE need so much battery. There are room for improvement, e.g we still don't manage the FastDormancy.

AmauryDBZ · 19 Sept 2023, 21:56

@lduboeuf I didn't knew about FastDormancy, make sense to priorise it.
Thank you for your answers and patience

lduboeuf · 27 Sept 2023, 16:09

Hi all,
[20.04 only]
I've made an app to allow to auto toggle LTE (4G) when cellular data is requested, and back to GSM (2G) when no data.

If anyone interested:
https://gitlab.com/lduboeuf/battery-saver/-/artifacts

source code:
https://gitlab.com/lduboeuf/battery-saver

the app can be closed after clicking "start" and if you see "Running...", it will create a background service

Edit: don't know if it is related but connectivity tends to have issue on upgrading to 4G. Or maybe only an indicator issue.

Keneda · 27 Sept 2023, 19:44

@lduboeuf

Would you release it on openstore ?
Is this for Xenial or Focal, or both ?

lduboeuf · 27 Sept 2023, 20:01

@Keneda said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

@lduboeuf

Would you release it on openstore ?

Maybe in the future, the ideal would be to have it integrated, but much much work involved + the fact that upcoming volTE will probably conflict with.

Is this for Xenial or Focal, or both ?

Focal only, only 24h a day

domubpkm · 16 Dec 2023, 14:41

Hello @lduboeuf . When i saw https://open-store.io/app/batterysaver.lduboeuf , i thought first it was a GUI of this topic. Or could your app evolve towards this?

lduboeuf · 16 Dec 2023, 16:39

@domubpkm said in [HowTo] Alternate way of saving battery when using 4G/LTE:

Hello @lduboeuf . When i saw https://open-store.io/app/batterysaver.lduboeuf , i thought first it was a GUI of this topic. Or could your app evolve towards this?

A bit different yes than always switching 2g/4g according tp screen state. But if i have 100 notif a day, it means 100 times the screen will turn on, i doubt it would be efficient...
But could be improved for sure

domubpkm · 16 Dec 2023, 21:51

@lduboeuf Thanks for your new project. Well personally, in normal use, I generally completely turn off cellular data and activate it when necessary. I don't know how difficult it can be to develop, but I imagine an option that automatically turns on cellular data in case of one or more open apps or web-apps using it, and automatically turns off cellular data when apps or web-apps that used cellular data are all closed...