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    Anyone tried installing another OS on a Ubuntu Touch X23

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        treebeard
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        This is just hypothetical but if a friend had an X23 supplied originally with Ubuntu Touch, has anyone experience of reflashing with another open source 0S or with the volla OS?

        I think if shipped with volla you can add Ubuntu Touch as a multiboot option but its not clear to my friend if a ut phone can add or replace the OS safely. Obviously this isn't a cheap phone so bricking isn't an option.

        Also can I install another OS treating the phone as a gigaset, or is it modified and therefore not going to succeed?

        2015 BQ Aquaris E4.5
        2021 Volla Phone (Ubuntu Touch)
        2023 Volla Phone X23 (Ubuntu Touch)

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          AppLee @treebeard
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          Hi @treebeard

          It should be about the same to flash Ubuntu Touch on a Volla phone with VollaOS than flashing VollaOS with the phone running Ubuntu Touch.

          I don't own a Volla device, but IIRC the UBports installer can install several other OSes if available for your device.
          And if we can trust my memory, I saw it for a Volla phone.

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            sven @treebeard
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            @treebeard If you want a multiboot device, I know only the Volla boot manager from within Volla OS. So, you must first install Volla OS (which might be illegal - I don't know - and deletes your UT) from UBports installer, and then the other OS with the Volla boot manager to some SD card. You will end up with fresh installations and the whole process does not sound simple.

            Volla once offered a reflashing service (for money); if interested, check their web site.

            VollaPhone22 (dual-boot of VollaOS and UT 20.04 OTA-5), Pocophone F1 (pmOS, edge)

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              Pingu
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              Hi, you can go to VollaOS with Ubports Installer. Then there is the possibility to flash SailfishOS. But difficult and there is always a chance to brick the phone. I have done it with a Volla 22 some time ago. But none official Sailfish is quite ok, but not to compare with a licence version. I would say its very experimental.

              UT since 2012 (also Sailfish)

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                treebeard @Pingu
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                @Pingu Thanks I took a look and the ubports installer does offer to install volla OS. I'm going to learn more about volla OS before making a decision.

                I'm too dependent on android apps to carry on using UT on my daily driver after 9 years enjoying the ride with UT and muddling through. It's not the fault of ubports .

                More and more busineses are cutting costs by developing apps instead of websites. Banks won't allow their apps to run on Waydroid (it's virtualized so seen as insecure). My bank was clearly exasperated at being asked by yet another customer.

                I can't get into music concerts without displaying an android app

                Several apps need hardware access not yet supported in Waydroid. My hifi remote control is an android app needing Bluetooth access. Another app needs wireless access to my camera.

                An NHS supplied weight loss course required I use an android app with Bluetooth access. No android device was provided on the grounds 'everybody has a smartphone'.

                Cryptocurrency companies are almost entirely app only, many needing camera access to scan barcodes.

                When we say 'app' we mean a piece of software able to run on only two operating systems, both American, with strong links to the American deep state. Both openly accepted as in reality invasive surveillance devices, feeding into the American NSA.

                I would blame weak western governments, but it's. common knowledge every western politician and news outlet is under the thumb of the CIA. And this is exactly where the pervasive surveillance comes in. It's true the American deep state has little interest in any of us. Until that is we make waves or act politically. Then the dirty laundry comes out of the NSA archives, ensuring through bribery and blackmail the compliance of another decision maker.

                You may preserve your privacy online, but your friends and family are all gossiping about you online leaving a trail of information.

                I'm long in the tooth and remember computers began as completely 'free' and private systems, that freedom taken step by step over 50 years.

                For my current needs the most practical route is degoogled Android. Over a longer period I hope that ubports and Waydroid can fill the need. I'll continue watching progress and hope to return to Ubuntu touch as my daily driver in the next 2 to 3 years.

                My best wishes to the ubports team.
                David.

                2015 BQ Aquaris E4.5
                2021 Volla Phone (Ubuntu Touch)
                2023 Volla Phone X23 (Ubuntu Touch)

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                  Triko
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                  I have a Volla X23 with Ubuntu touch and would like to install the Volla OS operating system. Because I'm just used to Andriod.
                  I found instructions on how to install Ubuntu touch, but nothing the other way around, from UT to OS. UBports is already on my Windows computer. Developer mode is also on. but for me, who never has done an installation at a phone, its difficult to understand how it works.
                  To me it seems like the whole thing doesn't run quite smoothly with the UBPorts software, because even after installing the OS (where did the installation go?) it says "Fastboot is scanning for devices". Can anyone help me around here?

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