Talk to the Non-Geek People

Lakotaubp

@nero355 Just to point out if anyone wants to track anyone switching on your phone is a big risk. If you run Android or iOS with location on all the info anybody needs is already there. It's tracking you. No covid app required. You are mixing things up and serving it up to match your view. Street cameras, video door bells on and on and on. Not having a covid app does not make you invisable. having one does not mean you are being tracked 24hrs a day. Please stop with these theories this is not the right place.

nero355

@lakotaubp said in Talk to the Non-Geek People:

@nero355 Just to point out if anyone wants to track anyone switching on your phone is a big risk.

Don't overreact please...

If you run Android or iOS with location on all the info anybody needs is already there. It's tracking you. No covid app required.

That's why :

I will never buy an iOS device.
My current Android phone is not a Google Android phone!

You are mixing things up and serving it up to match your view. Street cameras, video door bells on and on and on. Not having a covid app does not make you invisable. having one does not mean you are being tracked 24hrs a day.

So because the situation is bad already we should allow it to get even worse ?!

Please stop with these theories this is not the right place.

When someone wants to ruin one of my favorite OS options for a phone then this is the right place!

Lakotaubp

@nero355 No one is trying or going to ruin your favorite OS. People just want to be free to use it as they see fit not you. Which is why we are here.
This is now getting way off topic for this thread. If you want to carry on then may I suggest you start a thread in Off Topic on what is wrong or being ruined with UT.
The rest of the Forum is for discussions directly involved with improving and using UT on the currently supported devices.
If you do so please remember that the normal Forum rules still apply. I am not going to point them out again.

Lundrin17

@nero355

If less choice means better and more development of Native Apps and Applications then I would say that is the better choice!

But since nobody is held back from making native apps by having waydroid here, I still don't see the reason. I mean if waydroid would sease to exist tomorrow, there still wouldn't be more apps on openstore.

But what if beeing inviting isn't possible at the moment because of the attitude of most people in general ?!

Yes, it is possible. Not in huge numbers, but there are people, who for this reason or that would be interested. And even if it werent, why would it hurt you, if there's a quick noob friendly welcome tutorial only for the possybility? The original purpose of this thread was that. if someone with zero knowlage would just get here, look around, and wouldn't even know where to start, they would rather not at all.

Also you've told very much about your daily use of your phone, which is fine, but it still isn't the only way to use it. some people need banking applications, some only want to use discord. To alvays have two phones at you is uncomfortable and not practical for most people, especially if it is only to preserve some thinked up purity of UT or idk. I need only one android app, and it's shure as hell i won't have a second phone for that on me.

Also ideologies aside, how would a third party app, which you dont have to install ruin the os?

nero355

@lundrin17 said in Talk to the Non-Geek People:

Also ideologies aside, how would a third party app, which you dont have to install ruin the os?

At the moment you can simply say "NO!" when someones asks you about it!

When such an app actually exists you can get forced to use it in the end or have to lie about it...

flohack

@nero355 please stop asking for devices that will go EOL with 20.04 since we do not know them right now and we will inform the public as soon as we do.

Currently we are trying to get 20.04 running on a few devices and then we need to fix all regression bugs. Only then we can try to slowly widen the range of devices and then we will see. It will still be a few months probably.

A Former User

@flohack
Thanks for the info...

nero355

@flohack
NO is also the right answer! Thank you!

Lakotaubp

This thread is now off in the long grass of OT. If you are think of posting anything at all that is not about how to best communicate the basics of UT to non Geeks please don't. Or you may now think it best to start a new thread anyway and use this as a reference point.

*johnelvyn

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