@edwaleni Do you feel that the UT interface is intuitive enough for people to be able to use it instantly, if they are handed an iPad that runs UT?
Honestly speaking: I have my doubts. Most of us, when they switched from a different OS, needed a little time to find our feet.
I provided a full demo of the original Ubuntu Touch to a group who were tablet gurus in all the others (Android, Windows, IoS) and while they found some parts clunky, they liked the scopes concept and the ability to control the focus with a swipe, but some of these features have caught up in the other products now.
The biggest "clunky" issue they ran into was, Android and IoS goes all out to keep the users away from the things underneath.
Where UT seems to struggle is to know where to find the balance between what is simple Android touch and go VS. providing access to terminal/CLI low level functions. I broke my BQ Ubuntu Edition several times because I accessed areas I was apparently not supposed to go.
My peers seemed to feel the same way on that "touch simple" or "access all" metaphor.
@keneda I guess that PureOS is "compliant" if they don't include the linux-firmware package by default, but the phone hardware itself wouldn't comply, because of the modem. AFAIK, the Bluetooth/WiFi support in Librem 5 is also a bit lacking because Purism want to only use BT/WiFi in their systems, which doesn't require binary firmware blob, which the newer Atheros chips that support newer Bluetooth and WiFi versions, do.
More and more large private class action lawsuit, national investigations and claims are aimed towards the Big Five internet.
Recently The Privacy Collective has started a lawsuit and generating a lot of exposure. I would be interested to know if our community wants to be in the front line in this regard and if so, what could we contribute to have these kind of events work to Ubuntu Touch benefit?
Anyway, if you do support the collective goal you're a click away from making a difference by submitting your vote at
You absolutely right, I'm trying to figure out ways to improve collaborations with others rather then new users, BUT also to open a door for new marketers who want advice or generate new content/strategy, not sure how approach those either.
Ja, but how come so little attention in supporting UT financially is given?
Without having checked what kind of topics actually are in the Marketing category, but how come you draw this conclusion from just the chart? I don't see any financial aspects in those numbers. I'd expect the Marketing category to have discussions about spreading the word about UT and to get more people to install/use it. (I could be wrong, though, as I can't remember reading something there; I typically just look at the unread topics and their titles, not necessary which category they were posted in).
@dobey The thing is that we'll have to implement a quick access system sooner or later, that means phones or tablets that are capable of displaying real-time information and control from whatever corner of the factory. The thing is running 24/7/365..., I work in shifts and sometimes I'm alone, I have a fault, I'm at the location of the fault, but I cant see the system measurements since the PC is somewhere far away... Dumbphones are for the basic worker, but the core is using Android and the management iPhone. The core needs a mobile real-time information display platform.
We basically need to be able to display information provided by this: "*SIMATIC WinCC is a supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) and human-machine interface (HMI) system from Siemens. SCADA systems are used to monitor and control physical processes involved in industry and infrastructure on a large scale and over long distances. SIMATIC WinCC can be used in combination with Siemens controllers. WinCC is written for the Microsoft Windows operating system. It uses Microsoft SQL Server for logging and comes with a VBScript and ANSI C application programming interface.
In 2010, WinCC and PCS 7 were the first known SCADA systems to be specifically targeted by malware. The Stuxnet worm can spy on and even reprogram infected systems*." on a phone or tablet and be able to interact with it. This would be huge, if possible, as would cover at least Austria and Germany.
@Flohack ok, i will start reading everything and work my way into weblate.
before i can start contributing i first have to understand, how you work here.. in the internet 😉
in the projects i worked, i always dreamed about a well organised information sytem, but it was all more "physical world related" (building/maintaining a chicken keeping system, organising logistics of food distribution,..) and the people were not very used to using a computer, so we went with a mailing list, an ether-pad and a cloud storage.
it will take me some time to understand github, gitlab and weblate. i will get back, when i have questions.
I honestly think the point is being missed here especially with the support issue. This is not UBports selling new devices devices in a commercial way and not offering support for them. They are not being flashed by UBports and then sold without support.
It is meant to just enable an individual to point out they have a device for sale somewhere subject to the normal terms and conditions of that market site and that is it. End of story. As I said before if you are buying from one of these sites it is up to the buyer to do their research and ask questions of the seller.
The Ubports sites will have full details of the devices affected by any change or dropping of support no doubt clearly displayed on it as we do with all other major changes to the OS. We will not be hiding the fact that support is being changed or unfortunately dropped for some older devices if they cannot cope with future OS development.
I stand to be corrected but I think this will only affect some of the original UT devices which will be well past the normal support cut off offered by android etc.
One small suggestion, which I make not out of cynicism but simply because I think overselling is a problem when people are enthusiastic about a project (as we rightfully are): maybe leave off the verbiage about a "growing list of devices" until the list actually grows? So far as I recall, only one community port has ever appeared, all the Halium ports have some way to go, and the non-Halium devices are in early days yet, so hasn't it actually been a couple of years since the list grew?