"Are we mainstream-ready yet?"
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@developer
its usable for most of people those who dont need things like payments or lot of office (msteams/google/zoom/…) calls to be taken from phoneonly thing that UT needs now to mainstream is to be found in every local tesco shop
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@developer there are some freedesktop standards we need, also flatpak integration, outside of that we need eSIM support and way way better waydroid support.
outside of that we need a waydroid compatibilty chart for every major banking app in every country
we also need guides to what messanger has what feature supported natively and how to set it up.
also we probably want to make a public transport app and start supporting every single country we can.
we also need sms forwarding (i remember people asking about it in the forums)
a secure wallet for NFC, so someone needs to expose the treble APIs for hardware backed encryption so we can store credit card NFC tags safely. (to please the google/apple pay users)
and much much more.
we need to compile every UT feature and aspire to feature parity with vanila android (not the apps just pure android)i'd make a full comparison chart but i dont have the time
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Maybe the public can be divided into subgroups with different needs. Ubuntu Touch has to fulfill those needs.
Newbies that are not so into terminal coding generally say Ubuntu Touch is buggy. That the text is so small overall. That the text cannot be easily adjusted. They cannot see the text! Major road block for some.
The cookie nagging in Morph browser can drive somebody nuts, especially if they can't figure out how to block those cookie questions. Adblock exists in Openstore, but there may be difficulty to find a cookie question block solution. Or youtube ad blocking.
Some newbies want a laptop Ubuntu Touch like a Xubuntu desktop. Few understand that literally means to work inside a Libertine container with a terminal, inside Ubuntu Touch, but still isolated from Ubuntu Touch. That they need a device with USB3, external monitor and desktop mode to get things done. Or with snaps. It is not easy to grasp how Ubuntu Touch really works inside as a newbie. Major road block.
Offline GPS navigation with route planning is definitely on many newbies wishlist. If this part is too buggy it cools down emotions. Music player is there thankfully.
Signal is probably one such app that has to exist on Ubuntu Touch natively and work well. There is no way around it. Communication is high priority for some and a show stopper for many if not available.
Comparison: zoom does not exist for linux aarch64. Games do not focus on snapdragon chips. Result: people regret buying an arm computer because their wanted apps are not there. Same with linux distros lacking those apps people want.
Others want EPUB3 in night mode with proper fonts and good rendering. Try to find any android app that can render epub3 with inline svg graphics as well as those two most used apps in Openstore. Here is the uniqueness in Ubuntu Touch. Still, the epub3 viewers have some noticeable bugs which cools emotions. Night mode flickering between pagination is one.
What is downloaded most usually is most wanted by many. Many times it is games. The core apps are expected to be there but maybe do not get as much attention. Gameboy emulator is really good! No bugs there.
Lets look at the app ISODrive. It really solves a big support issue. But it does not work in 24.04/daily. Creating a bootable USB-stick when your laptop needs reinstalling is a nightmare when you are travelling, right? Here you have a unique thing, but it is not working. Why not fix it? Such things make effect because they are needed and solve a real problem that arises quite frequently.
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@mango
Divide into groups based on needs is a good idea. Assign a rank # to all you mentioned.
My version of list starts with:
Group 1: need voice calls - with VoLTE (required in some countries now, and many more in future). USABLE on 4 or 5 phones as of today ? Have not tried it enough to say 'mainstream ready' or not.
Group 1a: Voice calls over Wifi (Rural areas, etc). Hope you don't need it. NOT supported by UT.
Group 1b: VOIP to PSTN. Please tell me how to set this up (see 1a, above)other groups ? Your list...
BTW: Libre office snap installs directly - no need for Libertine.
Use wireless external display direct to TV (IF TV supports Miracast. Many LG TV's do). Limit 1080P, even on a 4K TV, due to Wifi speeds, or something.
Wired external display would be nicer, but it seems NOT many older phones that UT currently runs on support it.
(if Oneplus 8 gets UT port, I think it supports wired ext display).
Wired keyboard & mouse through USB-C expansion adapter with PD charging (Acasis $10) operational. -
My experience and what's still missing
I installed Ubuntu Touch on a Poco X3 and used it as my everyday device for about two weeks.
Of course, I encountered various difficulties, which I would like to list here: (Note: I usually use a Graphene OS phone).-
There is no clean integration with cloud solutions: Nextcloud works to some extent, but all areas should be able to be docked to the supplied apps: mail, calendar, and contacts.
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To get around this problem, one alternative would be to use a cloud like Proton directly in the browser. That's what I do on my Linux PC.
For this to work properly, the browser on the desktop and on the cell phone would have to be the same. And then it would also have to be possible to synchronize the settings (Vivaldi browser). That way, you could work without an app. -
Of course, banking apps won't work, but you'll have to live with that if you change your processes a little.
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You can't expect the same convenience as with an Android phone. I think back to when I switched from Windows to Linux. It was a shock at first, but today I can't imagine anything else.
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I forgot generic carddav and cups support.
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@MarcelloTogg - CUPS - are you saying it is there, or it should be ?
When I just tried it (to access it to configure a printer), UT could not find it.
AI online query says I need to work around read only UT system & do usual terminal style install, but that could break normal OTA updates. -
AI online query says
Sorry, but AI knows sweet f***all about Ubuntu Touch. There is just not enough relevant information online for it to build on. Please don't rely on it.
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@Moem
yeah ... that is why I replied to MarcelloTogg - to see if cups WORKED for them, or they WANTED cups to work for them. -
im working on something for printer support and other network sharing things ...actually drop in replacement for content hub its called "workspace" its meant to be a daemon background service because UT does not have one it will lock itself as a open app while that option is selected it cant close so it can keep running in the background and fill all those services ....maybe eventually even actually replace content hub in the long run if it proves itself ...but im designing it to come for content hubs head
...im doing alot so i dont know when
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