Livewire: A native XMPP client for Ubuntu Touch

Moem

@nbdynl said:

xmpp client

Xmpp is a decently popular chat protocol with a great number of clients:
https://xmpp.org/software/?category=clients

It makes a lot of sense for UT to have one or more native clients, too.

brenno.almeida

Nice work @projectmoon looks like a solid project. Never thought that Greenline could be used as a base for anything, the way the app is structured is too "whatsapp-specifc" and with a lot of code shortcuts, a bit hacky to be honest.

I'm seeing that you're building some non python modules into the project, numpy as an example. How are you building that for arm64? Are you cross compiling, building in a arm64 worker, or something else? Thanks!

nbdynl

@projectmoon thanks for the response, u aswell @moem

Another project to look into, i grew up with irc, but yea that is kinda not so safe at all xD, wel atleast unless you mask your identity but i cant remember how i did all that back in the days

projectmoon

@nbdynl with XMPP, you can joined IRC channels via a bridge called biboumi. Very easy to set up (if you run an XMPP server; otherwise, the provider you use might have it).

projectmoon

@brenno.almeida said:

Nice work @projectmoon looks like a solid project. Never thought that Greenline could be used as a base for anything, the way the app is structured is too "whatsapp-specifc" and with a lot of code shortcuts, a bit hacky to be honest.

I'm seeing that you're building some non python modules into the project, numpy as an example. How are you building that for arm64? Are you cross compiling, building in a arm64 worker, or something else? Thanks!

Thanks! The original reason I chose to use Greenline as the base was because Libervia is written in Python, Greenline is written in Python, Libervia acts as a daemon. All the pieces just kinda fit together. But then I wanted to make it confined, and then I a did a Rust, and now we have the current abomination!

As for building the Python part, there are two builds. There is the optional Nuitka (Python native compiler) backend build, which absolutely requires running on a native host for the architecture. This was an experiment to see if Libervia would run/start faster. It does not. At least, not enough to make it worth waiting for a 50 minute Python native compilation.

The regular backend, which is using Rust's PyO3, is just regular cross-compiled via clickable build. The only reason Nuitka requires a native build is because it simply does not do cross-compilation.

adorsaz

Thanks for this application, I miss a good XMPP client on Ubuntu Touch (Kaidan seems to not support MUC and MAM with my XMPP provider).

I've seen on the repository there's a CLAUDE.md file and I'm a bit scared of vibe coded applications. Are you using Claude to fully write the application or are you using it as an assistant but still create source code yourself ?

projectmoon

@adorsaz said:

Thanks for this application, I miss a good XMPP client on Ubuntu Touch (Kaidan seems to not support MUC and MAM with my XMPP provider).

I've seen on the repository there's a CLAUDE.md file and I'm a bit scared of vibe coded applications. Are you using Claude to fully write the application or are you using it as an assistant but still create source code yourself ?

It is not vibe coded. LLMs were/are used to do most of the boring mechanical work that I can't be arsed to poke around for an hour changing, like changing qt method parameters and call-sites everywhere. The architecture of the app itself is loosely based on Indra (internal Actix event stream-esque actor handling magic).

sixwheeledbeast

Most public IRC Networks have easy access to cloaking now.
I seem to be having issues with recieving messages in Livewire. I can send and read my own messages to another person from Livewire but they only ever show one tick. The messages from the other person dont appear at all in Livewire client not even errors just silence. Other clients show them fine.
I also have 2 unread messages on the notification side app menu but nothing is unread.

projectmoon

@sixwheeledbeast did you mark the app as unsuspended in UT tweak tool?

sixwheeledbeast

@projectmoon Only after I had these issues. I'm starting to get messages through now. There is no read confirmation from what I can tell. I now have it were the chat has disappeared as the last thing I sent was an image. I have to use contacts to find chat. The invisible messages I got before this are stuck as unread on the appbar

projectmoon

@sixwheeledbeast images not sending is a known issue as of yesterday. It appears to be working in OMEMO chats though. As for messages missing, it might be certain message events getting dropped from UI if it can't figure them out.