Livewire: A native XMPP client for Ubuntu Touch
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audio/video calls
If this is high priority for you, you might want to give DeltaTouch a try. Earlier this weekI tried a videochat with a friend who was using DeltaChat on /e/OS, and it worked fine.
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@projectmoon So i know, i need to do my own investigations, but uhh
can you explain a little why someone could need this? what is the advantage of your app?
like i am ungoogled searching the meaning of a xmpp client and "olmea" encryption.the app looks great...
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@projectmoon So i know, i need to do my own investigations, but uhh
can you explain a little why someone could need this? what is the advantage of your app?
like i am ungoogled searching the meaning of a xmpp client and "olmea" encryption.the app looks great...
It is an XMPP client. XMPP/Jabber is an instant messaging standard like Matrix. Older, different, some might say more efficient. But the end result is the same: put text into box, send text to other people. OMEMO (not olmea) is just the name of the end to end encryption used.
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xmpp client
Xmpp is a decently popular chat protocol with a great number of clients:
https://xmpp.org/software/?category=clientsIt makes a lot of sense for UT to have one or more native clients, too.
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Nice work @projectmoon looks like a solid project. Never thought that Greenline could be used as a base for anything, the way the app is structured is too "whatsapp-specifc" and with a lot of code shortcuts, a bit hacky to be honest.
I'm seeing that you're building some non python modules into the project, numpy as an example. How are you building that for arm64? Are you cross compiling, building in a arm64 worker, or something else? Thanks!
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@projectmoon thanks for the response, u aswell @moem
Another project to look into, i grew up with irc, but yea that is kinda not so safe at all xD, wel atleast unless you mask your identity but i cant remember how i did all that back in the days
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@nbdynl with XMPP, you can joined IRC channels via a bridge called biboumi. Very easy to set up (if you run an XMPP server; otherwise, the provider you use might have it).
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Nice work @projectmoon looks like a solid project. Never thought that Greenline could be used as a base for anything, the way the app is structured is too "whatsapp-specifc" and with a lot of code shortcuts, a bit hacky to be honest.
I'm seeing that you're building some non python modules into the project, numpy as an example. How are you building that for arm64? Are you cross compiling, building in a arm64 worker, or something else? Thanks!
Thanks! The original reason I chose to use Greenline as the base was because Libervia is written in Python, Greenline is written in Python, Libervia acts as a daemon. All the pieces just kinda fit together. But then I wanted to make it confined, and then I a did a Rust, and now we have the current abomination!
As for building the Python part, there are two builds. There is the optional Nuitka (Python native compiler) backend build, which absolutely requires running on a native host for the architecture. This was an experiment to see if Libervia would run/start faster. It does not. At least, not enough to make it worth waiting for a 50 minute Python native compilation.
The regular backend, which is using Rust's PyO3, is just regular cross-compiled via
clickable build. The only reason Nuitka requires a native build is because it simply does not do cross-compilation. -
Thanks for this application, I miss a good XMPP client on Ubuntu Touch (Kaidan seems to not support MUC and MAM with my XMPP provider).
I've seen on the repository there's a
CLAUDE.mdfile and I'm a bit scared of vibe coded applications. Are you using Claude to fully write the application or are you using it as an assistant but still create source code yourself ? -
Thanks for this application, I miss a good XMPP client on Ubuntu Touch (Kaidan seems to not support MUC and MAM with my XMPP provider).
I've seen on the repository there's a
CLAUDE.mdfile and I'm a bit scared of vibe coded applications. Are you using Claude to fully write the application or are you using it as an assistant but still create source code yourself ?It is not vibe coded. LLMs were/are used to do most of the boring mechanical work that I can't be arsed to poke around for an hour changing, like changing qt method parameters and call-sites everywhere. The architecture of the app itself is loosely based on Indra (internal Actix event stream-esque actor handling magic).
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Most public IRC Networks have easy access to cloaking now.
I seem to be having issues with recieving messages in Livewire. I can send and read my own messages to another person from Livewire but they only ever show one tick. The messages from the other person dont appear at all in Livewire client not even errors just silence. Other clients show them fine.
I also have 2 unread messages on the notification side app menu but nothing is unread. -
@sixwheeledbeast did you mark the app as unsuspended in UT tweak tool?
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@projectmoon Only after I had these issues. I'm starting to get messages through now. There is no read confirmation from what I can tell. I now have it were the chat has disappeared as the last thing I sent was an image. I have to use contacts to find chat. The invisible messages I got before this are stuck as unread on the appbar
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@sixwheeledbeast images not sending is a known issue as of yesterday. It appears to be working in OMEMO chats though. As for messages missing, it might be certain message events getting dropped from UI if it can't figure them out.
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This is OMEMO legacy. The images send but if the last message was an image the chat disappears from the chat list.
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This is OMEMO legacy. The images send but if the last message was an image the chat disappears from the chat list.
Probably https://git.agnos.is/projectmoon/livewire/issues/36
Likely applies to more than unencrypted!
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