Dekko2 Developer Community Thread



  • @thrrgilag logfile?



  • @doniks that's the annoying part a log doesn't get created, it fails as soon as it starts it seems.

    I did load the 0.1.6-alpha0 click you tagged and that worked so I presume something is wrong still with my build environment. Tried blowing away the .build-armhf/ and rebuilding but I don't see anything obvious there. Guess I'll keep digging.

    With the 0.1.6-alpha0 click, I was able to confirm that it does render plain text emails but not html ones. Guessing this is related to the existing browser issue where it crashes on certain sites maybe? And I do have one particular email that causes it to segfault outright. Don't know offhand what it in the messages is triggering that though. I was able to send an email though and notifications work so that's something.



  • @thrrgilag my builds also still crashing... As I said, I think they do since I updated the docker container. I've taken a click that I've built with the old container and "patched" it to the current state. I didn't have time yet to investigate whats the problem with the build currently. 😞
    Concerning the mails not getting displayed. Me too thought it was an issue with oxide, but I'm not so sure anymore. The oxide error log messages also appear in 15.04, where all mails are displayed fine. Also I have found some html mails that are displayed fine and some that show up at least partly. But theres a message of the second part of the mail needed to be loaded on opening "failing mails". So perhaps it depends on the size of the mails...(?)



  • @thrrgilag said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    @doniks that's the annoying part a log doesn't get created, it fails as soon as it starts it seems.

    maybe something in unity8.log then?

    another thought: I remember sometime it seemed that UT was cleaning up the log file after the app closed so I had to hack something like this, so I could keep it: while true ; do cat logfile > logfile.keep ; done.



  • Status update:

    • new alpha release here: https://gitlab.com/doniks/dekko/tags/0.1.6-alpha1
    • python dependencies for the composer now included in the click (again)
    • build process with clickable working fine now
    • show stopper: Fails to display multi part mails (not html mails as told above)


  • @hummlbach So as to go more confortably on Xenial, I think it is vital enough to have an
    e-mail client fully (or the more fully) operational. So ** thank you ** very much for the apport of all developers work on Xenial dekko 2.



  • @doniks said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko

    This is very cool – looking forward to (hopefully) fixing some bugs when I get to it in the upcoming weeks. πŸ™‚
    Email is (still) vital.



  • Have you seen the prior discussion, https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core/ is probably still the library to go for mobile email.



  • I agree with the importance of working email client.
    Actually, I would like to try Ubuntu Touch, and the lack of tolerable email client stops me.
    By the way, its curious what would cost to adopt https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Email? Can we run their programs easily?



  • @bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    I agree with the importance of working email client.
    Actually, I would like to try Ubuntu Touch, and the lack of tolerable email client stops me.

    I think dekko is getting close to being usable on xenial, just a matter of fixing a couple of bugs still lingering with the build. It already works great using the current stable 15.04 (vivid) release so you can take that for a spin.

    By the way, its curious what would cost to adopt https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Email? Can we run their programs easily?

    I believe the email app like others are not open source by Jolla. Just the framework referenced above which dekko I believe is already using. Also given that Silica is also proprietary it like other Sailfish apps would have to be modified in order to work properly.



  • @gnu-mobile said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    Have you seen the prior discussion, https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core/ is probably still the library to go for mobile email.

    Not sure it would make sense to swap out the libraries dekko already uses but could be worth spinning up a new project around a different library. There is certainly room for more than one email client on Ubuntu Touch. I myself have thought it might be fun to spin up an effort after we get dekko functional just to have something different.



  • Thanks @thrrgilag for shedding light on this!
    Still doubt if Email is closed source by Jolla (never heard of this before), but it's another topic I think..

    Another question: I would like to try Dekko 2 on Desktop. Is it possible now? If not, does somebody trying to achieve that?



  • @thrrgilag, personally I think that due to Dekko plugin nature, it's feasible to try to make UI plugin implementing chats similar which Deltachat has.
    I see no reason to have separate programs just for different mails representation..
    Maybe merge the two projects in the future. Just a thoughts..



  • @bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    Thanks @thrrgilag for shedding light on this!
    Still doubt if Email is closed source by Jolla (never heard of this before), but it's another topic I think..

    If it's open source they aren't exactly making it easy to locate. I looked at the github and gitlab locations and no projects or source for the email app. I've checked this thread https://together.jolla.com/question/41724/sailfish-os-source-code-location/ which states that their apps are closed source. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

    Another question: I would like to try Dekko 2 on Desktop. Is it possible now? If not, does somebody trying to achieve that?

    It's available as a snap. I have it running on my laptop in fact. πŸ™‚ Instructions are on the website. https://www.dekkoproject.org/download/



  • @domubpkm @te-online @gnu-mobile @bam @thrrgilag

    Please stay on topic:

    1. development of
    2. dekko 2

    Thanks



  • @bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    Thanks @thrrgilag for shedding light on this!
    Still doubt if Email is closed source by Jolla (never heard of this before), but it's another topic I think..

    The UI is closed source the underlying things not - as in most of Sailfish native apps except the browser - although you can find pretty much by looking into the system files as many things are in qml and not hidden ...
    What is open source and what not in Sailfish OS



  • @hummlbach Do we have a small idea where the multipart problem could come from? Just asking to know if we should try to get more help rushing in πŸ˜‰



  • @flohack said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    @hummlbach Do we have a small idea where the multipart problem could come from? Just asking to know if we should try to get more help rushing in πŸ˜‰

    Maybe @hummlbach knows more than me (would be no big surprise) but, I'd say: Bring the cavalry!



  • @doniks I've just tested the alfa release on Pro 5 and it seams that all works, but you can't see the content of the received email. Only the header. Setup, notifications works just fine. No crashes so far.



  • @flohack said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    @hummlbach Do we have a small idea where the multipart problem could come from? Just asking to know if we should try to get more help rushing in πŸ˜‰

    The status of the investigations concerning the multi part mails is, that dekko2 has a database in .cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/database/qmailstore.db to keep track of the mails. In that database it keeps the meta data and also the path to the file in which the actual mail is stored, for example: /home/phablet/.cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/mail/1534752857.4528.nEvJp. If its a multi part email theres a directory additionally, then called 1534752857.4528.nEvJp-parts with a file for each part. The directory is there also in xenial, but its empty, so the files for the parts are missing... So the next step is to investigate why dekkod fails to put the files there i think. I didn't get where dekkod puts his log yet... I had the impression, that its log messages do not end up in the usual place... I think i can solve this one soon, but even then, there are two other bugs waiting to get attention:

    • a few html mails are not displayed properly
    • some time dekko thinks that a single part message was multi part resulting in a crash

    I actually "promised" (Rudi) to have dekko ready by end of august - thats seems to be a tough goal now... πŸ™‚ So depending on when we want/need to have dekko ready, you may want to get some more helping hands in:

    @doniks said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

    ... I'd say: Bring the cavalry!

    hehe πŸ˜„


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