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      Photojoe4 @PINE64
      last edited by 14 May 2019, 04:52

      @PINE64 It really is humbling how you're responding to just about every question posted here, thank you!

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        B2288
        last edited by 14 May 2019, 22:12

        Are there any OS for the PinePhone that support VoLTE?

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          flohack @B2288
          last edited by 15 May 2019, 18:39

          @B2288 Since there is no real device now there is no OS for the PinePhone at all. So this question is a bit early, lets talk about volte in a year or so ^^

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            PINE64
            last edited by PINE64 20 May 2019, 10:52

            An updated look at Lune OS:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SyqbI24qu0

            For those asking about performance, while this is a very early build and the Lima driver is still WIP, I think that we can all agree this looks quite promising πŸ™‚

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              domubpkm
              last edited by 20 May 2019, 20:23

              How will you evaluate the number of Pinphones with UT for the production ? Did you start a pondering about that ? Actually, you have as start point or work basis the number of members of ubports community.. Knowing that a lot are '' Pinphone addict '', it could be several for some/a lot of members.. πŸ™‚ For me it will be two

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                PINE64 @domubpkm
                last edited by 20 May 2019, 23:02

                @domubpkm To be honest, we don't have an estimate. Here is what we're thinking: late this year and early next year we will release two batches of Pinephones geared toward enthusiasts happy to accept some potential sw shortcomings. Which OS, if any, these early phones will ship with is anyone's guess at the moment - its still early in the process. Then there will be a pause in production (kind-of-forced and not up to us; CNY - which realistically lasts over a month). This will give us an idea of the interest in the device and, as a bonus, also give some time for the software to mature as phones end-up in the users hands and people report issues (perhaps you guys even help devs out in the polishing process).

                Once CNY storm blows over (late Feb/ early March 2020) we may decide to ship the phones cyclically changing the OS per batch (batch 1 UT; batch 2 LuneOs; batch 3 Maemo Leste, etc.,). We are even toying with the idea of having different color back-plates for each of the projects (UT = Orange/ KDE = Green etc.,) - perhaps even with a stamped-in logos, for when a batch ships with a particular OS. The default black back-plate will obviously always be there as an option. And I hope its clear to all that you can run whatever you desire on your PinePhone ... I'm sure someone will end up running XFCE just because its possible πŸ˜‰ So what the Phones ship with doesn't really matter all that much.

                Anyways, we'll probably play it by the ear and see how it goes this years and early the next and take it from there. BTW, all I have written may not happen or may change - just letting you know what we're currently planning and thinking πŸ™‚

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                  domubpkm @PINE64
                  last edited by 21 May 2019, 00:02

                  @PINE64 again a very clear, complete and professionnal answer : this time how the distribution process (wide view) should happen : THANK YOU ! πŸ‘

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                    dualnaut @PINE64
                    last edited by 21 May 2019, 03:23

                    @PINE64 thank you for this thoughtful answer. Can't wait for the first batch πŸ™‚

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                      mymike
                      last edited by mymike 22 May 2019, 10:03

                      I know it's too early to talk about this but I'd really like to see a passive audio amplifier like fairphone did for its phones
                      e9ff0702-788d-4fc7-980a-3df726c1ba40-immagine.png
                      (https://www.3dhubs.com/talk/t/introducing-fairphone-2s-crafty-wooden-accessories/3783)
                      maybe this can also help with positioning the speaker in a strategic place

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                        PINE64
                        last edited by 22 May 2019, 13:30

                        @mymike looks like a fun add-on. Not sure its something we'll try to tackle, as we've got plenty on our plate, but we hope end users and other projects will be happy to create such and other peripherals for the PinePhone. We're trying to expose I2C (via pogo pins) on the PinePhone too, which would also open it up to various applications and custom case-backs, etc.,

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                          trainailleur @mymike
                          last edited by trainailleur 22 May 2019, 16:53

                          @mymike said in PinePhone:

                          I know it's too early to talk about this but I'd really like to see a passive audio amplifier like fairphone did for its phones

                          maybe this can also help with positioning the speaker in a strategic place

                          Neat. Looks like something the 3D printing community could do for just about any phone.

                          @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

                          we hope end users and other projects will be happy to create such and other peripherals for the PinePhone. We're trying to expose I2C (via pogo pins) on the PinePhone too, which would also open it up to various applications and custom case-backs, etc.,

                          I'm hoping someone - whether @PINE64 or another company - comes up with a landscape keyboard case for terminal work. So far I've used repurposed Iphone keyboard cases, connecting by Bluetooth, but that's a bit of an ugly hack.

                          Edit to add: that ugly hack is also complicated by the fact that I've only found landscape slider keyboards for very old Iphones, and most of them have dead batteries by now. By the time I plug them into a charger battery or other power source, I have enough hardware on my hands that I might as well just ssh in.

                          I did recently acquire two Iphone slider keyboard cases with working batteries, but one is a portrait keyboard so not ideal for the terminal (and also takes an oddball charge plug), and the other lacks a dedicated row for numbers. Maybe I should look into 3D printing a larger case and installing a decent battery into the five row keyboards. Or just glue a thin charger battery to the back of those keyboards.

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                            Djhg2000 @PINE64
                            last edited by 22 May 2019, 17:40

                            @PINE64 I really like the idea of having different colors for different operating systems. Would the different back-plate designs be available separately or to be treated as limited editions exclusive to each batch?

                            Another idea could be to have solid colors available to all and printed artwork exclusive to each batch. For instance, the first batch could have a solid purple backing with the orange Ubuntu Phone circle (like in this picture: http://refugeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Ubuntu-Phone-Wall.png).

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                              PINE64
                              last edited by 22 May 2019, 19:31

                              @trainailleur Granted the pogo pin setup works out, I am pretty sure just about everyone will be thinking of making a keyboard case-back.

                              @Djhg2000 Not really sure what artwork you have in mind exactly, but casting a cover in a different color (basically just different color plastic) would most certainly be less expensive. Also, we cannot use some of the artwork due to potential problems with trademarks -- that linked Ubuntu image being a good example of what we could not do πŸ™‚

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                                Djhg2000 @PINE64
                                last edited by 22 May 2019, 22:29

                                @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

                                @Djhg2000 Not really sure what artwork you have in mind exactly, but casting a cover in a different color (basically just different color plastic) would most certainly be less expensive. Also, we cannot use some of the artwork due to potential problems with trademarks -- that linked Ubuntu image being a good example of what we could not do πŸ™‚

                                I only meant for the picture to be illustrative but now that I read my post again I see that I wasn't very clear about that, sorry for the confusion.

                                Basically I wanted to have some recognizable UI element printed on the back so that you could tell what the phone shipped with. Trademarks/copyright could certainly be an issue for some of those. Then again, a solid color should be recognizable enough to the right people. πŸ™‚

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                                  PINE64 @Djhg2000
                                  last edited by PINE64 22 May 2019, 22:43

                                  @Djhg2000 Ah yes. Well, it would be ideal to have a logo of the project in question molded into the plastic. How much work and how expensive that would be is some we won't know for some time. Its just an idea.
                                  I truly hope that people will also 3D print custom back-covers (and cases) for the PinePhone.
                                  You can always make your own vinyl skin for the case if neither of the ideas materialize πŸ™‚

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                                    flohack @PINE64
                                    last edited by 23 May 2019, 19:06

                                    @PINE64 A transparent one would be cool πŸ˜‰ - ItΒ΄s a project where you should see whats inside, so also give transparency to the hardware hehe...

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                                      A Former User @flohack
                                      last edited by 23 May 2019, 20:14

                                      πŸ™‚ A great metaphor, @Flohack

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                                        PINE64 @flohack
                                        last edited by 23 May 2019, 23:16

                                        @Flohack I really like the idea! Lets hope that the PCB is visible on the actual phone - the mockup has a plastic 'shield' over the fake PCB (probably holds heatsink in place), so all you'd see is black plastic + battery (not super exciting).

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                                          makeixo
                                          last edited by makeixo 24 May 2019, 17:48

                                          Surprise Surprise

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                                            Stefano @trainailleur
                                            last edited by 30 May 2019, 09:37

                                            @trainailleur I wonder if bluetooth on PinePhone will be fully functional, e.g. handsfree calling, bluetooth transfer, as on current devices it doesn't work. Or is it a question for Ubports rather then for PinePhone vendor?

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