PinePhone
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@PINE64 Sorry, i meant a GPS kill switch?
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@tera ah I see. Perhaps - we'll see whats possible.
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Numpty question: Doesn't the flight mode button act as a kill all switch?
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@tera ah I see. Perhaps - we'll see whats possible.
Will you be using a discrete GPS instead of one built onboard the cell modem?
@3arn0wl said in PinePhone:
Numpty question: Doesn't the flight mode button act as a kill all switch?
The degree to which a software switch can be trusted depends on one's trust in the software, drivers, and firmware of the device being killed. A hardware switch that cuts power to a device is in theory more trustworthy, assuming function of the switch has been properly verified.
Whether or not one thinks that's necessary for any given device is a separate issue and a matter of personal taste and philosophy, but for any given piece of hardware, there's probably both a use case for killing it at the hardware level and a group of potential customers enthusiastic about that case yet unserved or underserved by existing phones.
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@trainailleur we'll be using the one built in with the modem, not a discrete one.
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@trainailleur we'll be using the one built in with the modem, not a discrete one.
I thought that was probably the case. This being so, I'd guess a modem kill switch will also kill GPS but GPS can't likely be killed via a hardware switch w/o also killing the modem. But I admit I'm not familiar with this card or how power into it is handled, so I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, I'll learn something interesting.
BTW, I know it's not promised at all, much less at launch, but I very much approve of the proposed keyboard case. That would be a brilliant accessory.
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Per tilim on #Pinephone, the choice of modem is not yet set in stone, so I've updated the note above (though I'm crossing my fingers that the original plan holds so that a world traveler won't need multiple devices). Also added a bit regarding the ease of disassembly.
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For those interested, Lukasz sat down with Linux Lads to talk about the PinePhone.
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For those interested, Lukasz sat down with Linux Lads to talk about the PinePhone.
Great interview. Thank you for sharing.
Re. the question asked near the end, I like the idea of an orange case.
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Thank you for sharing this link, @trainailleur - what a great advert for UBports! Each time they talked about the phone OS, they were talking about UT, and how impressed they are with it. And it's fantastic that the first batch of Pine Phone will be released with UT in the 4th quarter.
I do think it's a bit of a shame though (but perhaps fairly inevitable), that on the podcast, and on this thread to a certain extent, having announced some hardware, and making no bones about the fact that it's an entry-level device, that interested, eager, enthusiasts then ask for x, y, and z found on high end devices.
But perhaps I'm looking at this from the wrong end: maybe there is a market for a Pine Phone plus... Maybe people will be prepared to shell out for a higher end device. One step at a time, I guess.
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@3arn0wl said in PinePhone:
Thank you for sharing this link, @trainailleur - what a great advert for UBports!
Just to be clear, @PINE64 shared the podcast link.
It is indeed well worth a listen for those who can spare the time. The time taken doesn't have to be the full hour; I downloaded it so that I could replay it at higher speed in VLC.
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@trainailleur @PINE64 Oops. Sorry, I see that now.
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@trainailleur Those phone covers are an idea we also like. Ok, lets see how that goes - no promises. Personally I'd love to see all partner projects represented at the back of the phone case at one point.
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@trainailleur Those phone covers are an idea we also like. Ok, lets see how that goes - no promises. Personally I'd love to see all partner projects represented at the back of the phone case at one point.
Agreed, not promised, so I won't pin my hopes to it. Even more interested in the proposed physical keyboard add on (which I also understand has not been promised), but orange case and a keyboard? That would be even better.
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Even more interested in the proposed physical keyboard add on
the first Jolla phone had some connectors under the back cover which enabled smart back covers. That sparked a couple very interesting third party back covers. One of it was a flip out hardware keyboard back cover https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla
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@PINE64 Do you plan to support MHL, or HDMI directly? Given the size of the phone, it would be incredibly useful to be able to connect it via HDMI and manage the screens using xrandr.
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@dpilux https://twitter.com/thepine64/status/1098604137514762241
USB-C (video out, data, fast charge)sounds a lot like SlimPort (hopefully it is that). -
Hope so, @dobey - for convergence sake!
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An interesting vlog about linux on phones in general, with Ubports and Ubuntu Touch in particular.
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@dpilux We've got a plan for how digital video out via USB C will work. I will not discuss it at this point - not because its top secret, but rather because I don't want to disappoint you in case this particular implementation doesn't come to fruition (haven't spoken to the party/ vendor that would make it possible yet).
One way or another, there will be digital video (HDMI) out via USB C.
@doniks We hear you. We are still planning on a keyboard, likely in the form of a phone case (sliding like e.g. the old Nokia N900) but one thing at a time. Lets get the phone right first. As for connections ... we'll see. Perhaps using the USB C port or BT. There won't be custom pogo pins - too much retooling for the case would be needed.
