PinePhone

PINE64

@klowe Hard to tell since neither device is available, but probably yes. We actually considered something very similar ourselves in the future ...

A Former User

See: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nexcomputer/nexdock-2/comments
NexDock 2

K Lowe
... days ago

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2531/nexdock-2-and-ubuntu-touch/8
NexDock 2 and Ubuntu Touch

Will NexDock 2 work with a Nexus 5 running Ubuntu Touch?

As I understand it, NexDock 2 does not have present the kb/mouse over Bluetooth, so you would only be able to use it as a monitor for Nexus 4/5.

Will NexDock 2 work with the new Pinephone running Ubuntu Touch?

It will not work over the USB-C as the Pinephone as I understand will not have SlimPort (DisplayPort alt mode), but straight HDMI. You would need an adapter to split the video out to the HDMI port on the NexDock 2, and use the USB-C for the kb/touchpad and charging connection.

Are the above statements correct?

A Former User

See: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nexcomputer/nexdock-2/comments
NexDock 2

Nex Computer (Creator)
... days ago

Yes, above statements seem correct. The only way to provide data and display over one cable to Nexdock is displayport over USB-C, and it seems like Pinephone does not support this feature.

A Former User

@PINE64 "We actually considered something very similar ourselves in the future ..." Hopefully, the Pine64 LapDock will be similar to NexDock 2 with an optional touch screen.

PINE64

@klowe We'll see in the future. Right now we're pretty focused on getting the PinePhone right. What I will say is - it seems to me that a similar docking station is doable. Would be cool if it would be possibl to slide the phone inside the case (perhaps a modified Pinebook case?), effectively turning it into a laptop. Feel free to brainstorm the idea, but perhaps its best to do in a different thread ... or on the PINE64 forum.

mymike

@PINE64 idk if someone else already asked those question:
is there a plan for an IR LED in the PinePhone?
what about spare parts for the PinePhone? I think mostly about the screen (LCD and touchscreen) and the battery, will Pine64 sell them?
Thank you for this fantastic project!

PINE64

@mymike Very good question. Sorry for the late response - I am traveling. I'll need to find out exactly what will be available (and edit this post) but I am pretty sure that most spare parts, including the LCD, won't be an issue. Batteries are a whole different can of worms sadly ... they are a real pain to ship.
Good that you brought this up - perhaps we should consider using some sort of easily attainable battery. Will get back to you (TL is traveling too ... so... could be a few days).

vandys

@PINE64 For shipping of batteries, I suggest that you fab a flashlight which uses the same battery. One switch, one LED, minimal plastic case. Then you can ship a battery within a device, national post office regs are satisfied, and the recipient can perhaps crack open the flashlight and use the battery elsewhere.

PINE64

@vandys haha, "Introducing the PineLight" ...
Thanks for the tip.

trainailleur

@PINE64 said in PinePhone:

Batteries are a whole different can of worms sadly ... they are a real pain to ship.
Good that you brought this up - perhaps we should consider using some sort of easily attainable battery. Will get back to you (TL is traveling too ... so... could be a few days).

I hope something works out, since a removable battery isn't much use if replacements aren't available. On the other hand, $150 isn't much money with which to budget all features, so I understand if it doesn't turn out to be feasible.

trainailleur

Updated original post with revised weight from the wiki, now back down to 180-200g. Also added vibrator, also a recent wiki addition.

domubpkm

If we will be able to change and to get easily new batteries, it will be a good thing. But for me, the more important is the QUALITY and DURABILITY of the first battery delivered with the phone.

PINE64

Here is an update to the general hardware development progress. A revised and final version of the dev kit PCB (v2.0) is now being laid out. It fixes a few issues with the first iteration of the PCB (like e.g. some GPIO mis-allocations) as well as adds community requested features, like the multi-color LED discussed in this thread few weeks back. If all features on this PCB work as intended - and devs are happy with it - then it will become the design to be shrunk down into the PCB that will go into the phone.

We're in talks with multiple factories to deliver the phone. This is good news because, well, they need to compete for our business and this translates to quality (as in any business they need to outdo one-another). I won't say more than this at this point - not because its a secret, but rather because I don't want to raise anyone's hopes for improvements to X or Y which may not happen in the end. Once we've got a deal you'll be the first to know. Regardless, this is good news for everyone.

Lastly, since 'battery' has now become a conversation point I'll learn more about it in coming days and see what is already known - perhaps we can add this information to the known feature-list by the end of next week.

mymike

@PINE64 thanks! what about the InfraRed LED?

PINE64

@mymike Ah yes, will find out... sorry, absent minded and tired from travel

UniSuperBox

As far as I can tell, the A64 doesn't natively support an IR LED for general purpose use. It has a native CIR (Consumer IR) receiver (which is broken out on the devkit but not installed) and any of its six UART controllers can be configured to use IrDA. I assume you're looking for an IR transceiver for controlling a TV or similar @mymike... If it's possible to use GPIO to output fast enough for a TV then you might have a case, otherwise there might not be a compelling reason (or software support).

PINE64

Off-topic somewhat, just wanted to let the community know that there is now a Telegram group linked our IRC and Discord that discusses the PinePhone. All welcome

A Former User

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PINE64

So, we don't have a definitive answer regarding the battery at this time.

Any and all suggestions regarding easily sourceable (is that a word?) 3000-3500mha batteries by end-users welcome. Happy to brainstorm any ideas you may have.

[edit] physical dimensions: 91.5mm x 63.5x 3.8mm
[edit 2] Thoughts about the Galaxy J7 battery as an option ?

mymike

@UniSuperBox yeah, it was for those puropose.
if it's something more or less easy to add I'd be glad, otherwise doesn't matter, that's not a fundamental component...