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    What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?

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      • arubislanderA Online
        arubislander
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        No, adding a system setting is not impossible. The challenge is implementing this feature on the relevant software stack of the mobile devices, which is nothing like the software stack on the desktop. Which in turn is the reason that, unfortunately, the existence of an implementation on the desktop is irrelevant to the current issue.

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          alan_g @UniSuperBox
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          @UniSuperBox said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

          Gonna disappoint you here, I really don't know what's needed to do that. It's possible that color calibration is already built in to Mir (I'm sure it is), so that'd be the first lead to follow. @alan_g?

          Not a full answer, but essentially "blue light filtering" amounts to customising the gamma curves. Mir supports setting the gamma curves as part of the display configuration: this allows more general "display calibration" than "blue light" but is the way to do it.

          So far as I can recall this has not been used outside if the tests, and I can't say whether any of it works with your libhybris/android "platform".

          It would be an interesting "exercise for the reader" to try implementing "blue light filtering" in one of the Mir examples.

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            A Former User @alan_g
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            I just saw this: http://jonls.dk/redshift/

            I don't know if it would be of any use...

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              dobey @Guest
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              @3arn0wl said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

              I just saw this: http://jonls.dk/redshift/

              I don't know if it would be of any use...

              It doesn't support Mir/Wayland, and Mir/Wayland don't allow arbitrary apps access to the screen like that, so no, it's not really.

              This is something that really needs to get baked into the system.

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              • OpolorkO Offline
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                I'd see a blue light filter function as a very high priority given how it's known to affect peoples sleep so badly.

                How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                  alan_g @Opolork
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                  @Opolork said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

                  I'd see a blue light filter function as a very high priority given how it's known to affect peoples sleep so badly.

                  Everyone is entitled to decide their own priorities. If this is "a very high priority" for you, the joy of open source is that you can do something about it. Here's a plan:

                  1. Check out the Mir code and get it building.
                  2. Find the mir_demo_server example and add a "blue light filtering" option by setting gamma ramp on the display configuration.
                  3. Try it out and confirm if it has the desired results.
                  4. Adapt this code to provide this "filtering" option via the MirAL interface.
                  5. Propose (and get accepted) this addition to the Mir project.
                  6. Check out the QtMir code and get it building.
                  7. Make use of the new MirAL option for "blue light filtering".
                  8. Propose (and get accepted) this addition to the QtMir project.

                  There are people willing to help with every step along the way.

                  Good luck!

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                  • OpolorkO Offline
                    Opolork
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                    Hi Alan. But blue light affects everyone's sleep. Sorry, but I don't think I want to go through all of that. :see-no-evil_monkey:

                    How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                    • alan_gA Offline
                      alan_g @Opolork
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                      @Opolork if it isn't a priority for you, that's fine too. πŸ˜‰

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                        joe @alan_g
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                        @alan_g Are there some suggested links to the Mir code etc?

                        Anyone know where to find these parts in the code?
                        Thanks

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                          @Opolork @alan_g

                          There was an email address at the bottom of the Redshift website, so I just pinged the developer and asked if he might consider contributing some expertise to Mir.

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                            alan_g @joe
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                            @joe said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

                            @alan_g Are there some suggested links to the Mir code etc?

                            For starters, there's a handy guide to step 1 here: https://mir-server.io/doc/getting_involved_in_mir.html

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                              @3arn0wl said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

                              @Opolork @alan_g

                              There was an email address at the bottom of the Redshift website, so I just pinged the developer and asked if he might consider contributing some expertise to Mir.

                              As dobey said above, there's very little overlap. About the only thing in common is the choice of values for the gamma curves.

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                                Fair enough, @alan_g

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                                • OpolorkO Offline
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                                  A workaround for now. I will not use the smartphone after 8:30pm to combat that pesky nighttime blue light. πŸ’‘ πŸ™‚

                                  How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                                    @Opolork in the meantime there's a proper solution, you could use a blue light filter screen protector on your device, or even use glasses with that kind of filter πŸ˜‰

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                                      @advocatux said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

                                      @Opolork in the meantime there's a proper solution, you could use a blue light filter screen protector on your device, or even use glasses with that kind of filter πŸ˜‰

                                      Those are also valid workarounds. Although I think it's good to ditch the smartphone around 8:30pm anyway - to wind down for the night. I go to bed at 10:45pm. πŸ™‚

                                      How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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                                        advocatux @Opolork
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                                        @Opolork wrong answer! You need to keep testing and improving UT until 4 a.m. at least πŸ˜†

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                                          alan_g @alan_g
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                                          @alan_g said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

                                          Propose (and get accepted) this addition to the Mir project.

                                          I've added an issue to the Mir project. (But it won't be scheduled in the foreseeable future.)

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                                            Opolork @advocatux
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                                            @advocatux said in What's the situation with blue light filtering on Ubuntu Touch?:

                                            @Opolork wrong answer! You need to keep testing and improving UT until 4 a.m. at least πŸ˜†

                                            Far too late for an extreme early bird like me. πŸ˜‰ 🐦

                                            How can you trust that an app really won't send some company your location data, when you tell it not to? The only way you can trust a program not to do something it isn't supposed to do is if it is free software. ~ RMS

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