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    Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name

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        Aurze @CyberAly
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        @CyberAly Agree and Conanical have the habit not to go with the community but their own way (Mir, Bazaar, Launchpad...) And it look like we are going the community way (Wayland, git, Github...) wich is a great thing. So yeah I personnaly prefer to push the Linux brand thant the Ubuntu one.

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          Leppa
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          I'd honestly prefer we stick with something like "UBPorts Touch", and keep the robot logo.

          Everyone believes that their actions are better than the alternatives.

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            L-00170 Banned
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            My 10 cents would be to change that name asap. UBports is awful name for os. And that robot reminds too much of a Android.

            Perhaps something like Change OS Since things are about to change 🙂

            We would already have theme song for that 😄

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ

            Or simply call it Touch OS

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              Locamama
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              FRENCH
              Pourquoi pas l'appeler par exemple "Linux Touch" pour quitter vraiment le nom créé par canonical ou ubtouch pour avoir le début de ubports une façon d'avoir leur signature car c'est grace à eux que l'on continue Ubuntu. Merci à l'équipe et tous ceux qyi rendent ce monde plus libre

              ENGLISH
              Why not call it for example "Linux Touch" to really leave the name created by canonical or ubtouch to have the beginning of ubports a way to have their signature because it is thanks to them that we continue Ubuntu. Thanks to the team and all those who make this world more free

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                Mitu
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                I am for keeping with Ubuntu Touch unless Canonical forbids to. Why?

                1. This OS is still Ubuntu. It is what Canonical created, but taken further without them.
                2. Ubuntu Touch will not be associated with the OS that died. If it survives and gains traction, it will be associated OS that was so good that community has been keeping it alive after its initial creators abandoned it.

                Ubuntu is recognizable. Don't go for a new name or many people not involved before will just see an abstract, unrecognizable name.

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                  Locamama
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                  FRENCH
                  Oui, je tout à fait d'accord Ubuntu Touch doit durer mais si canonical demande de changer le nom. 😱

                  ENGLISH
                  Yes, I totally agree Ubuntu Touch should last but if canonical asks to change the name. 😱

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                    mardy
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                    At the moment, the project has identified itself as ubports: this site, the github repos, the patreon page, it's always "ubports".
                    I think that if we want to move constructively, we should take one step at a time and instead of immediately proposing new names, decide whether we want to keep "ubports" or change. If we decide to change, then we'll have a chance to think of a different name.

                    As for myself, I'm all for changing. "ubports" is just a nightmare to pronounce, and to most people (even geeks) it means nothing -- the link to Ubuntu is far from being evident. Besides, the "ports" suffix reminds of porting, but the project now has grown into something considerably bigger than that: it's a full O.S. which we'll be maintaining ourselves.

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                      CyberAly @mardy
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                      @mardy I say it "you bee ports" but maybe other people don't. Without knowing its association with Ubuntu, perhaps one would be tempted to say "ubb ports" or "you ba ports" or something.

                      Maybe bringing the Ubuntu name back into it as much as possible is a good thing since Ubuntu is already well known. It's like getting a headstart on good PR instead of starting from scratch.

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                        flohack @CyberAly
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                        @CyberAly I am a bit opposed against emphasizing Ubuntu in the name. TBH Canonical let us all down, and now we should give them free advertisment for their name? Nah I dont like this. We are not affiliated with them, and on th elong run I want some distance here....

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                          CyberAly @flohack
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                          @Flohack But equally, they funded most of the work so far on the operating system... But then of course we get to the whole open source debate, legally speaking there's no issue building on what they've provided.

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                            sverzegnassi @CyberAly
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                            @CyberAly There is no particular issue in building an OS upon what they have created, like ElementaryOS or Linux Mint did (well, in the LM case there have been a few).

                            But we can't use their name to promote ourselves. That's set in stone in their policies.
                            The most we can bring the Ubuntu name back is to keep that "ub-" prefix. Any usage of "ubuntu" or "-buntu" suffix is strictly forbidden. Using a "u-" prefix is not explicitly forbidden, but Canonical has already moved actions against such usage in the past.

                            It could be possible to ask Canonical to make "Ubports OS" an official flavour, but I can't see any real advantage in doing this. UBports would probably have to accept certain restrictions (e.g. in governance, I suspect), just for using the "Ubuntu" name. It is not worth, in my opinion.

                            UBports has already had a discrete coverage on the internet, so I don't believe they should completely wipe their current name away, at least for what concerns their team.

                            However - and I think it's a shared feeling here - the OS should really get its own brand and identity in future. To clarify my previous words, in case of emergency "UBports OS/Touch" could still be a valid fallback solution.

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                              Locamama
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                              FRENCH

                              Pourquoi pas UT-OS ou Touch-OS, nous aimons tous Ubuntu et c'est pour cette raison que l'on a fait confiance à UT (abréviation que nous employons souvent 😜). Maintenant on ne sait pas vraiment si Canonical voudrai bien nous faire don de ce nom (Ubuntu Touch). Mème si celà les rapproche de nous par le biais du nom, les gens feront la différence entre UT et Ubuntu de bureau. Cananical nous à mis l'eau à la bouche (expression française) pour nous la retirer ensuite, ils peuvent nous faire ce cadeau pour des passionnés qui sont toujours fidèle à Ubuntula. 🤓
                              ENGLISH
                              Why not UT-OS or Touch-OS, we all love Ubuntu and that's why we trusted UT (abbreviation that we often use 😜). Now we do not really know if Canonical would like to give us this name (Ubuntu Touch). Even if it brings them closer to us through the name, people will make the difference between UT and Ubuntu office. Cananical we put in the mouth (French expression) to withdraw us then they can make us this gift for enthusiasts who are always loyal to Ubuntula. 🤓

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                                mike @Locamama
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                                @Locamama
                                but it should be not a to cool awesome name !
                                all linux distros with too coooool names are death... examples : libranet bogus yggdrassil...;)

                                All statements without guarantee ---> linux greenhorn-newbie...

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                                  Locamama
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                                  @mike said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

                                  Locamama
                                  but it should be not a to cool awesome name !
                                  all linux distros with too coooool names are death... examples : libranet bogus yggdrassil

                                  FRENCH
                                  Mais bien d'autres ont réussi comme Mandriva, kubuntu, Mint, Achlinux, etc. Mais à nous tous, nous devrions trouver un nom accrocheur 😜

                                  ENGLISH
                                  But many others have succeeded as Mandriva, kubuntu, Mint, Archlinux, etc. But to all of us, we should find a catchy name

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                                    L-00162 Banned
                                    last edited by L-00162

                                    Now i have an idea for a name.

                                    UTOS or uTOS

                                    It can stand for both Ubuntu Touch OS or UBports Touch OS.

                                    That name is even free.

                                    UBOS would have been good too, but there alreaydy is UBOS Linux...

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                                      thepeter
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                                      Branding of linux distro is IMHO mostly based on packaging system, so question about name of system should be derived out from question: do we use packages anyhow connected to ubuntu? and for now answer is: yes, because AFAIK our development tools are from ubuntu desktop linux, and also at-least here we assume developer for this system would have ubuntu on desktop

                                      And if it comes to suggestions geeky name UB3 crossed my mind at current circumstances (suggesting that U'll be free with this distro 😄 )

                                      If we achieve freedom from desktop distributions and still would like to have some (well hidden) link to ubuntu, we may generate new name the way they did - for instance "mobile" (adjective) according google translate in zulu is "hambelayo" or "bukhali" for "smart" and "thintana" is verb for "to touch / to contact"; but we also can go completely our way - same as ubuntu and basically everyone did when derived from debian - for instance showing that this is "the linux distro for mobile devices": molix, mode linux, or just smartdev linux / touchscreen linux etc ...

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                                        hans1977se
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                                        I think it would be nice if it could continue to be called Ubuntu Touch, but if it can't maybe UBtouch would be a good candidate? Or else if something more distant from Ubuntu like Libre Touch, Free Touch or Open Touch?

                                        I'm still ok with UBports as the name as well, but i think that over time it might be more and more misleading since it is probably going to be less and less about porting someone else's OS to more devices.

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                                          flohack @thepeter
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                                          @thepeter Bukhali sounds nice somehow, and U and B are still in 😉

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                                            jamesp @flohack
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                                            @Flohack said in Branding UBports: OS name / Project Logo / Project Name:

                                            @thepeter Bukhali sounds nice somehow, and U and B are still in 😉

                                            Reminds of bukkage also it is used as surname so probably not best of choices.

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                                              advocatux
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                                              Ubuntu Intellectual property rights policy clearly states:

                                              "Any redistribution of modified versions of Ubuntu must be approved, certified or provided by Canonical if you are going to associate it with the Trademarks. Otherwise you must remove and replace the Trademarks and will need to recompile the source code to create your own binaries. This does not affect your rights under any open source licence applicable to any of the components of Ubuntu. If you need us to approve, certify or provide modified versions for redistribution you will require a licence agreement from Canonical, for which you may be required to pay. For further information, please contact us (as set out below)."

                                              So it's in this community, and project, interest to keep the distance from Canonical-Ubuntu trademark to avoid legal problems.

                                              UBports is not bad, but I prefer something like Convergence OS or whatever synonym you like about the convergence concept.

                                              P.S. If you want to dig deeper in how Canonical is willing to employ its Legal Department, look for their actions against OVH, Linux Mint, or even how they use the trademark law to target a site critical of Ubuntu privacy ("Fix Ubuntu" site).

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