Camera App Gone...
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Hmm, strange. Wonder why a core app would go away without uninstalling it? Really seems like that shouldn't happen. If I reinstall, will I reed to individually reinstall each app I've downloaded, or can I use the "reinstall all apps" option under updates?
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@Photojoe4 If you reinstall without ticking wipe all you are doing is reflashing UT. You will keep all data, info and your apps and just have a fully restored UT. Not sure why this has happend but as you can't seem to swop channel either this is quicker.
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So, reflashing on the Stable channel (twice) didn't bring the Camera App back, but reflashing on the RC channel did. Very strange...
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@Photojoe4 https://forums.ubports.com/post/21179
That's why it works in RC but not in Stable.
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Was the app completely removed from the Stable channel then? Again, seems very strange that a core app would be removed. I've been really happy with how stable and functional this OS has become, but honestly this makes me rethink using it as my primary device. If this had happened with another core app, like the phone app for example, I'd have no choice but to switch to something like Lineage.
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@Photojoe4 No, and in fact there is nothing really that automatically removes apps from the device once they are installed. If you were on stable channel and suddenly the app was gone, the only possibility is that OpenStore app does something weird in the case of the last update, and if you're not paying attention it's possible that you may have uninstalled it without realizing it, when installing updates.
This is really the only viable explanation I can think of, outside of you removing the app more explicitly. BTW, the camera app cannot actually be removed from the device (it can only be flagged as uninstalled) currently, so even in worst case scenario, restoring the original version which came on the OTA image you're running, only involves removing a broken symlink file that gets created under
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@dobey That was what perplexed me. I know I didn't intentionally remove it, and in fact I didn't think I even COULD remove it. I'm sure you're right, somehow a recent OpenStore update removed it. But, again, this really doesn't seem like it should be a possibility for core apps, maybe on the Dev or Edge channel, but not the RC, certainly not the Stable channel.
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@Photojoe4 said in Camera App Gone...:
@dobey That was what perplexed me. I know I didn't intentionally remove it, and in fact I didn't think I even COULD remove it. I'm sure you're right, somehow a recent OpenStore update removed it. But, again, this really doesn't seem like it should be a possibility for core apps, maybe on the Dev or Edge channel, but not the RC, certainly not the Stable channel.
You can remove the core apps. That's what having extra freedom means. Should it have been removed in this case? No, probably not. You almost certainly hit a bug, and simply did not realize it was being removed, but it was not done so automatically, nor is it normal.
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The freedom is quite nice no doubt! And on one level, having the ability to remove every app (core or other wise) is very appealing. But having a core app go away after an update is a pretty damn big bug. If this happens again, can I just reinstall the app through the terminal with something like 'sudo apt install camera'?
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@Photojoe4 said in Camera App Gone...:
If this happens again, can I just reinstall the app through the terminal with something like 'sudo apt install camera'?
Apt is not supported. However, you could just do something like
rm /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.cameraand reboot. This should get you the version that came with the image you're currently running, back. -
@dobey Excellent, thanks! And I'm assuming it would be the same for any of the other core apps, like rm /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.phone for the Phone App, correct?
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@Photojoe4 No, a few are actually shipped directly in the rootfs for certain reasons, so you can't uninstall them (or update them) from Open Store. The phone app is one of them. However, for most of the core apps that will work, yes. Phone, Messaging, Morph Browser, External Drives, Media Player, and System Settings are the specially installed apps and not removable, currently.
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@dobey Ah, I see. So the "core" apps that could be uninstalled (and reinstalled) are Calculator, Calender, Camera, Clock, Contacts, File Manager, Gallery, OpenStore, Terminal and Unav, right? What's the advantage of not having these in the rootfs as well?
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@Photojoe4 They do not need to be, while the others do for various reasons. So they can be updated separately from the main image itself.
