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      Pulsar33
      last edited by 5 Sept 2021, 18:56

      Libertine first experience on BQ E5 HR OTA-18 :
      Installed ok so far : gnome-system-monitor, hardinfo, pcmanfm, lxterminal, gcc, build-essential, gedit
      Many other SW tested but not ok or bad experience (I can publish the list and comments if you want)

      SW already installed are suffisant for compiling my own code and HelloWorld example is ok
      I will come back about compiling later.

      At this time, my main problem is the following :
      UBTouch is configured for French langage with virtual keyboard French and Emoji.
      The virtual keyboard works for UBTouch AND for Libertine Apps BUT the keyboard doesn't move the display when it opens.
      So it is underlaying the terminal line (or other MMI parts) and you have to type blindly.

      Moreover, an external (bluetooth) keyboard is better for programming activities and fortunately, I have one.
      It works fine with UBTouch application provided that you configure "External keyboard" French in Langage preferences
      BUT at the same time, it remains in English layout for Libertine applications (see picture)

      Does anyone know what to do to solve this please ?
      BR
      Pulsar33
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        dobey @Pulsar33
        last edited by 6 Sept 2021, 15:42

        @pulsar33 said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

        Does anyone know what to do to solve this please ?

        Sounds like an issue, which would be good to report at https://gitlab.com/ubports/core/libertine/-/issues

        P 2 Replies Last reply 6 Sept 2021, 18:30 Reply Quote 0
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          Pulsar33 @dobey
          last edited by 6 Sept 2021, 18:30

          @dobey Thank you
          Done : https://gitlab.com/ubports/core/libertine/-/issues/113
          BR
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            Pulsar33
            last edited by Pulsar33 9 Sept 2021, 11:06 9 Sept 2021, 10:59

            Hello,
            I've been able to compile and link a personal code with gtk & xml libraries.

            However, the right part of the screen isn't responsive (issue #13) and widget to minimize, extend and close the windows are not available at all, even for popups :o(

            Without solving these bugs, it will remain difficult to have a good experience with desktop applications.

            I'm also facing another problem :
            dpkg -s libgtk-3-dev | grep Version => Libertine: 3.18.9-lunbuntu3.3 au lieu de Mint 19.3: 3.22.30-1ubuntu4
            The function gtk_menu_popup_at_pointer was introduced in GTK+ 3.22
            The function gtk_scrolled_window_set_max_content_height was introduced in GTK+ 3.22

            Do you know when the GTK version will be upgraded ?

            Have a nice day
            Pulsar33

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              dobey @Pulsar33
              last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 19:23

              @pulsar33 said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

              Do you know when the GTK version will be upgraded ?

              We will not be maintaining GTK+ packages ourselves. What is available in Libertine is what is in the Ubuntu 16.04 archives. If you need a newer/different GTK+ version, then you should build it yourself. When 20.04 based images are available and Libertine is working there, then you'll be able to use whatever is in the 20.04 repos.

              In the future, flatpak support may be added as well however, which may solve this specific issue, as any flatpak app could depend on a specific runtime for the version of GTK+ or GNOME libs needed, for example.

              However, when specifically any of these things may happen is not set in stone.

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                Pulsar33 @dobey
                last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 21:52

                @dobey : Thank you once more for your answer.
                Ok, I will live with(out) it :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
                BR
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                  Pulsar33
                  last edited by Pulsar33 13 Sept 2021, 07:05

                  Same application more "convergence friendly" and in Windowed Mode
                  Nice day to all
                  Pulsar33

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                    Pulsar33 @dobey
                    last edited by 12 Nov 2021, 15:46

                    @dobey said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

                    @pulsar33 said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

                    Does anyone know what to do to solve this please ?

                    Sounds like an issue, which would be good to report at https://gitlab.com/ubports/core/libertine/-/issues

                    @pulsar33 said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

                    @dobey Thank you
                    Done : https://gitlab.com/ubports/core/libertine/-/issues/113
                    BR
                    Pulsar33

                    As far as I see, nobody is assigned to the 17 issues opened (the oldest is 3 years old). Can someone tell something about that situation ?

                    BR
                    Pulsar33

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                      dobey @Pulsar33
                      last edited by 13 Nov 2021, 19:27

                      @pulsar33 said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

                      Can someone tell something about that situation ?

                      Libertine is not a current focus for core devs. It is an experimental feature still. Anyone is welcome to volunteer to solve specific issues, and make merge requests, but issues in Libertine probably won't be a focus for the core team for a long time, unless donations to UBports Foundation greatly improve, so that the foundation can contract someone to focus on it specifically.

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                        Pulsar33 @dobey
                        last edited by 14 Nov 2021, 07:15

                        @dobey Thank you for the answer, even if this is the worst I could read. I'm an old and experimented programmer (since early 80's), with free time every day and I would be glad to help. I speak C/C++ (and many old others) as well as my mother langage, but I've no idea of the tools you use today to work in team. Moreover, I've no idea of the layers and constraints the software has and I'm afraid it would be a great waste of time to start without support and detailed documentation. Say I want to solve the issue "External keyboard layout ignored by Libertine", does this seems possible to you and how should I start ?
                        BR
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                          johndoe @Pulsar33
                          last edited by johndoe 16 Nov 2021, 20:31

                          @pulsar33 I have no idea about Libertine, but I know that I have usually to choose my keyboard layout when installing a new OS (and the Libertine container is like its own OS as far as I understand it).
                          So it should not be a surprise, that Libertine does not automatically recognize the keyboard layout.

                          The person who wrote the issue wants that the keyboard layout in the Ubuntu Touch OS also applies to the OS in the Libertine container.

                          Maybe the keyboard layout in Libertine can be set the same way like in Debian:
                          https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard

                          I would maybe try to synchronise the file "/etc/default/keyboard" in Ubuntu Touch with the same file in Libertine.

                          Step 1: try to replicate the issue (write with a non English keyboard in Ubuntu Touch and in Libertine)
                          Step 2: try to solve the issue
                          Maybe copying "/etc/default/keyboard" from Ubuntu Touch into the Libetine container and executing "udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change" will do the trick.
                          To have a permanent fix, it would be nice, if the Libertine container and Ubuntu Touch could both use the exact same "/etc/default/keyboard" (maybe with a link), but I don't know, if this is possible and if the suggested solution even works.
                          Step 3: If you can solve the issue, you could write a merge request and leave a comment under the issue.

                          I hope this helps.

                          Edit:
                          I scrolled up a little bit and I saw that you are the person who opened the issue. If you just want to solve this problem for yourself, the first commands in the linked website will maybe solve this:

                          dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration && service keyboard-setup restart && udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change

                          Should you ever want a device with a newer processor and better support, you can take a look at this side: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io
                          The list goes from the best working devices (on the top) to the devices with less support for Ubuntu Touch.

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                            levone1 @johndoe
                            last edited by 17 Nov 2021, 02:01

                            @johndoe
                            ...
                            screenshot20211116_210011788.png

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                              Lakotaubp @levone1
                              last edited by 17 Nov 2021, 05:09

                              @levone1 Try this https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

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                                Pulsar33 @johndoe
                                last edited by Pulsar33 17 Nov 2021, 05:44

                                @johndoe said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

                                I scrolled up a little bit and I saw that you are the person who opened the issue. If you just want to solve this problem for yourself, the first commands in the linked website will maybe solve this:

                                No, I don't want to solve this issue for myself. I was taking it as an example to ask to @dobey how to "work in team" and how to "learn the fundamentals" of UBports layers because he answered me "Anyone is welcome to volunteer to solve specific issues".

                                So trying to solve this issue here in this thread is off-topic. Moreover, this issue has something to do with bluetooth keyboard. The virtual keyboard is FR in Libertine but the physical keyboard remains US in Libertine while it is FR in UBports. [end of off-topic]

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                                  johndoe @levone1
                                  last edited by 17 Nov 2021, 16:38

                                  @levone1 I fixed the link.

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                                    johndoe @Pulsar33
                                    last edited by 19 Nov 2021, 00:14

                                    @pulsar33 OK ...

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                                      Pulsar33 @Pulsar33
                                      last edited by 19 Nov 2021, 06:21

                                      @pulsar33 said in Running desktop applications on UBTouch:

                                      @dobey how to "work in team" and how to "learn the fundamentals" of UBports layers

                                      @dobey : any clues ?
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