libreoffice
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Why does libreoffice work on all of the other availible distros on pinephone but not on ubports? I feel like ubports is the most stable right now but libertine is a huge step backwards we need to attract people with easier to install convergence capable applications rather than tell people to chroot to gain functionality. My guess is that its the reinventing of the windowing system which is unneeded for convergence apps..Why not just use a different windowing system when docked? I'd rather not have access to apps when in mobile configuration but be able to launch desktop apps in docked mode rather than no access to legacy apps at all.
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@hobanwashburn I don't know about any technical difficulties, but the practical problems of using Office applications on a tiny phone screen would rule it out for me.
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@cliffcoggin thats what convergence is for you plug it into a dock and use a monitor and keyboard..
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@hobanwashburn A phone tied to a fixed keyboard and monitor loses its reason for existence: mobility. You might as well use a normal computer.
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@hobanwashburn Are you asking in General(pun intended) or PinePhone specific? if so will move it to PinePhone subforum.
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@lakotaubp I felt general was a more apropriate forum as it might not be a device specific issue.
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@cliffcoggin Actually there are a lot of applications for such a device especially in mobile vending. And its what the pinephone was sold as a convergence device.
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@cliffcoggin You can also use a Bluetooth keyboard and a wireless display (miracast/aethercast).
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@hobanwashburn I think if I remember correctly the PinePhone was sold with the intent that it was aimed at developers and not ready for anything like normal use. Having only just got one, it is a lot better than I expected but still a way off everyday day use
Edit Unless you like a fair bit of messing around and stuff as it is still being worked on even though there has been massive progress. -
@lakotaubp Im not saying there hasnt been progress did you try the new release build its near perfect.
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@lakotaubp Im simply pointing out that implementing 2 different window managers might be what we want and when docking or using apps that are desktop apps the system auto rotates and switches window managers.
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@hobanwashburn lomiri is pretty close to unity, which was canonical's default desktop before they returned to gnome, and they are similar in feel. In lomiri it is possible to switch between mobile and desktop window handling. If you manage to get libreoffice running, I suppose the user experience in convergence will be very similar to in standard ubuntu desktop? I haven't tried myself, though...
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Fwiw - Abiword works well in Libertine, and has the benefit of a simpler gui than LibreOffice, so can work ok on a phone screen, provided one has a bluetooth keyboard/trackpad along with it.
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@totalsonic I require spread sheets though.
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@hobanwashburn - Gnumeric works ok in Libertine as well, although a little clunky. If you have a Dropbox account you can run LibreCalc from within it on the web. Also the Document Reader app allows to read spreadsheets, although not edit them.
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How about a seperate category in the app store for desktop apps that are run in a container that switches the screen orientation and window manager.
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@hobanwashburn said in libreoffice:
How about a seperate category in the app store for desktop apps that are run in a container that switches the screen orientation and window manager.
Not possible to implement that idea yet, unless a community developer steps up and volunteers for a lot of hours dedicated to that task. The rebase to 20.04 opens up the possibility to some desktop apps eventually working better in Libertine, especially ones with dynamic guis, like Geary 40.
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@hobanwashburn quite frankly libertine sucks as is it needs to be more user friendly or esentially a background task that the app store utilizes.
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@hobanwashburn Libertine is an experimental feature, and is incomplete. It's also only a crutch. It's not going to make legacy apps usable on a phone with only touch input. It's there for using legacy apps when connected to external display with mouse and keyboard.