Xenial / Focal

domubpkm · 9 Nov 2023, 08:21

Which Xenial apps work under focal ?

Do web apps built with Webber under Xenial still work under focal and if so, do the sessions opened under xenial remain open after switching to focal ?

Thanks.

lduboeuf · 9 Nov 2023, 17:56

@domubpkm said in Xenial / Focal:

Which Xenial apps work under focal ?

With openstore website you can check if apps that you are lookng for exist on Focal.

Do web apps built with Webber under Xenial still work under focal and if so, do the sessions opened under xenial remain open after switching to focal ?

Idk, give a try :).
Worst case would be to just recreate them.

Thanks.

Moem · 9 Nov 2023, 18:44

@domubpkm said in Xenial / Focal:

Which Xenial apps work under focal ?

There is no list. The best way to find out is to try and see, and documents their results. Unless someone does that, there will not be such a list.

Do web apps built with Webber under Xenial still work under focal and if so, do the sessions opened under xenial remain open after switching to focal ?

Yes, the web apps seem to work still. Not sure about the sessions.

domubpkm · 9 Nov 2023, 21:01

@lduboeuf Thanks. I expressed myself badly: I wanted to say if some xenial.click worked under focal (to know or avoid to uninstall before a switching procedure). For the second point and session, it was to find a solution to avoid to do a full procedure to reopen teleports or a web app telegram (avoid using an android telegram app).

lduboeuf · 9 Nov 2023, 21:21

@domubpkm said in Xenial / Focal:

@lduboeuf Thanks. I expressed myself badly: I wanted to say if some xenial.click worked under focal (to know or avoid to uninstall before a switching procedure).

Not 100% sure, but likely not. Except maybe for pure QML apps. But again need testing.

For the second point and session, it was to find a solution to avoid to do a full procedure to reopen teleports or a web app telegram (avoid using an android telegram app).

Just ensure you have a TG somewhere else than UT to receive the code, this is not an heavy procedure imo.

Br1 · 9 Nov 2023, 22:41

@domubpkm said in Xenial / Focal:

Which Xenial apps work under focal ?

these three work well :
Tedit
Home
WhatsWeb

domubpkm · 10 Nov 2023, 07:15

@Br1 Surprised that xenial tedit works on focal on your phone

Br1 · 10 Nov 2023, 10:51

@domubpkm after upgrading to Focal you need to remove (*) / download these apps from openstore website and install it

(*) if already installed

Appointed · 7 Oct 2024, 21:48

Good evening.

I’m allowing myself to post my question here because it seems to me that it’s a bit the same subject.

I understand that the apps developed for Xenial no longer work on Focal.

It seems that this situation is so permanent that on the "web" version of Openstore, you can choose the channel and filter the results of the available app for this channel, but on the OpenStore app, you can’t choose.

It seems that an automatic filter reduces the results to only apps registered for the channel installed on the smartphone used to consult the Openstore app.

So, is it helpful to try installing a Xenial app on Focal to see if it works or is it a waste of time?

Thank you

Keneda · 7 Oct 2024, 22:39

@Appointed said in Xenial / Focal:

So, is it helpful to try installing a Xenial app on Focal to see if it works or is it a waste of time?

As I understood (I don't have a focal device yet), you can try.

arubislander · 8 Oct 2024, 09:35

@Appointed said in Xenial / Focal:

I understand that the apps developed for Xenial no longer work on Focal.

This is not true for all apps. Some apps will work on Focal as is and unchanged. The reason they are filtered out is because the store has no way of knowing before hand which will work, and there is currently also no way to flag that an app works under Focal, other than uploading the app in the 'Focal' slot in the Open Store.

So as @Keneda said, it is not a waste of time to try. All QML only apps will work. If the app is compiled then it may or may not work. A quick way to find out is to try it.

Appointed · 8 Oct 2024, 22:49

Good evening.

Thank you for your answers.

I'm agree to try, but as the Openstore does not allow me to install the app I want to try because it is in Xenial and I am under Focal, I can’t try.

In fact, I rediscover UT with my Redmi.

I had already discovered it with my Nexus 5 under Xenial, and I thought that everything I could not or couldn’t do with my phone, I could do with a newer phone and OS.

One of the great promises of UT is to get a grip on its OS.

But everything is too closed.

In the comments of the Openstore, some specify what they have as phone and as OS. So we know that it works with such phone and such OS.

But someone thought that it was necessary to prevent users of Focal from installing Xenial apps.

UT must have too many people who develop apps and therefore must reduce this number of compatible apps by making the old apps unaccessible to the new OS...

Thank you again.

Keneda · 9 Oct 2024, 00:38

@Appointed said in Xenial / Focal:

I'm agree to try, but as the Openstore does not allow me to install the app I want to try because it is in Xenial and I am under Focal, I can’t try.

Yes you can.
Just download the app using web browser open store version, and then install it "manually", using Ubuntu Touch Tweak Tool (if I remember correctly).

Moem · 9 Oct 2024, 11:08

@Keneda said in Xenial / Focal:

using Ubuntu Touch Tweak Tool

That's not needed. You can just open the downloaded file, the system will ask which app you want to open it with, and you choose the Open Store app.

uwahl · 14 Oct 2024, 17:18

@domubpkm
...recently discovered KEEPWEB working well on focal...so necessary for editing the Keepass (read only) .kdbx files on focal...

still ota4 on focal pixel 3axl

Appointed · 26 Oct 2024, 22:05

Hello.

Thank you for your answers.

@Keneda said in Xenial / Focal:

[...] Just download the app using web browser open store version, and then install it "manually", using Ubuntu Touch Tweak Tool[...].

@Moem said in Xenial / Focal:

[...] You can just open the downloaded file, the system will ask which app you want to open it with, and you choose the Open Store app.

I have tested both methods and both work.

It’s a great thing!

...

Well, okay, that’s a lie.

Neither method works.

But I didn’t want to be considered as a lowlife again.

One of the two methods gives :

"Le paquet n'a pas pu être installé. Assurez-vous qu'il s'agisse d'un paquet click valide."

And the other method says :

"Failed with miscellaneous internal error."

I show them in the language they appear on my phone (yes, on my phone, it is half translated).

So I could not test the application because I could not even install it.

Ho! And now, on the web OpenStore, there is no choice but all channels or Focal. Xenial has disappeared from the list of choices, but Xenial applications are still available.

This could make it look like you can filter out applications that only work on Focal or applications that work on all channels.

But no, actually. The filter has become applications that only work on Focal or Applications that maybe work on all channels.

If you can install them...

Thanks again.