I'm not certain if this is the correct place to log these bugs, but here it goes...

I running Version 75 of UT on a PinePhone, using the "developer" channel. Overall, I'm very happy with what I'm seeing, and do understand that this is a "work in progress".

Here's a list of some key bugs/issues which are making it challenging to use the phone as a daily driver:

1. As of about two or three builds ago, the text message sort order became extremely awkward. The prior sort order was with oldest messages on top, newest messages on the bottom. With the current build, received messages are in reverse order (above ALL of my responses) at the top of the list, and ALL of my responses are in the normal order at the bottom of the list. What that means is incoming messages are at the very top of the list, and my responses are at the very bottom. I'm sure this is a simple sort order bug that was recently introduced. As simple as this may be, it makes using the system for text messaging very cumbersome.

2. I recently encountered an issue (with the stable build a while back) where MMS messages (with an image attached) no longer can be sent or received. It is possible that this is an APN configuration issue (I'm using T-Mobile through Ting in the US). I have carefully entered the parameters for the APN using an android phone (as UT does not show/provide access to all of the parameters specified by Ting/T-mobile), then popped the SIM back into the PinePhone. What I've found here is that (1) in order to initiate outgoing phone calls, I need to manually select the 2G/3G option instead of the 4G option (although it works fine for internet and incoming calls, and will sometimes work if I select 2G/3G first, then change it to 4G). (2) I've had better luck setting up two separate APNs (one for Internet, one for MMS) rather than the single, combined APN. The guide I've been following is here

3. I've tried repeatedly to add an account (generic CALDAV, CARDDAV, and google). When using the "add account" function, I simply see the wheel spin endlessly without any progress.

4. The music player will not play local files, and goes into an endless loop "discovering" all of the files in my music folder over and over again. When attempting to play a song (either by track, artist, or album), the "discovery" loop starts all over again and the file never plays. However, the "media player" app works as expected.

5. I believe this is already known, but the gallery function/app doesn't work at all for browsing for photos. It simply displays a white shell with a menu with choices for "photos" and "events".

6. I'm pretty sure this is a known issue, but the camera functions don't work at all (just displays a black screen with three expected controls at the bottom that don't appear to get anything working).

7. This may not fall under the UT umbrella, but Dekko is a bit of a trainwreck. When setting up an account, the input is not echoed to the display, unless you use the task switcher then jump back into the app. When an account is finally set up, message headers appear as (mostly) expected, but the message itself is not accessible (using either a standard POP3 or IMAP account).

On the wishlist, it would be great if the Morph browser would implement some option for saving passwords, as it and Tor do a lot of heavy lifting to compensate for broken/missing apps.

Despite all of these issues, I am looking forward to using the PinePhone with UT much more heavily, especially when it is rebased to Debian and more common Linux apps are more easily accessible. Thanks guys for all your hard work getting things working this well.

@ubuntoutou I'm still fairly new to UT but I have a couple of suggestions. First of all, I suggest restarting the phone before any testing; I've noticed a few oddities when traveling out of wifi range and on to cell data. You might also want to connect to wifi if you haven't already and see if the speed improves (using a site such as speedtest.net). Secondly, you might want to try installing the onion browser as a comparison (in the event the issue has to do with Morph rather than your connection).

If you're still seeing slow speeds, as a test you might want to download and install an alternate OS such as mobian (or even another Ubuntu Touch image) onto an SD card (which you can boot pretty easily -- the SD card slot is on top of the SIM card slot -- it is a simple slide in/slide out slot, not a push-in and click type slot). Instructions are pretty simple for creating an OS image - see https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone_Software_Releases#Factory_Test_OS for a list of images. So far I've tried Mobian, Pure OS (very similar to Mobian), and KDE Neon. Of the three, Mobian seemed to work the best (minus screen rotation), and the daily build of KDE Neon produced a number of errors. None seemed as fluid and natural as UT, but for purposes of testing internet, temporarily booting to SD card will at least give you a bit more of an idea where the speed problem may be originating.

@arubislander Thanks. Well, there's always the hope that Libertine will help fill the gap.

@arubislander Thank you for your responses. My comments about Dekko were not intended to disparage the work done on that project. I understand that programming an interface with mail servers is a lot of work; I've done some programming on projects that have to deal with those things. That being said, I do stand by my general point that the software is unusable for me on the PinePhone, forcing me to use Morph or Tor with a web-based interface. I would love to use it, but very fundamental things, such as displaying the content of messages are a dealbreaker. I'm not an expert on the Dekko project; the install on the PinePhone are my first exposure to it. It was a disappointment when basic functionality did not work properly, whether the issue is primarily caused by UT, the PinePhone hardware, Dekko, or some other cause.

I could have sworn I heard on one of the recent UBPorts Q&A podcasts that they were in fact planning to eventually rebase to Debian in the future and unhook as much as possible from the Android base. I could be wrong, but it was a mention that caught my attention, to the point I skipped back to listen more closely a second time.

@negations Thanks!

I'm not certain if this is the correct place to log these bugs, but here it goes...

I running Version 75 of UT on a PinePhone, using the "developer" channel. Overall, I'm very happy with what I'm seeing, and do understand that this is a "work in progress".

Here's a list of some key bugs/issues which are making it challenging to use the phone as a daily driver:

1. As of about two or three builds ago, the text message sort order became extremely awkward. The prior sort order was with oldest messages on top, newest messages on the bottom. With the current build, received messages are in reverse order (above ALL of my responses) at the top of the list, and ALL of my responses are in the normal order at the bottom of the list. What that means is incoming messages are at the very top of the list, and my responses are at the very bottom. I'm sure this is a simple sort order bug that was recently introduced. As simple as this may be, it makes using the system for text messaging very cumbersome.

2. I recently encountered an issue (with the stable build a while back) where MMS messages (with an image attached) no longer can be sent or received. It is possible that this is an APN configuration issue (I'm using T-Mobile through Ting in the US). I have carefully entered the parameters for the APN using an android phone (as UT does not show/provide access to all of the parameters specified by Ting/T-mobile), then popped the SIM back into the PinePhone. What I've found here is that (1) in order to initiate outgoing phone calls, I need to manually select the 2G/3G option instead of the 4G option (although it works fine for internet and incoming calls, and will sometimes work if I select 2G/3G first, then change it to 4G). (2) I've had better luck setting up two separate APNs (one for Internet, one for MMS) rather than the single, combined APN. The guide I've been following is here

3. I've tried repeatedly to add an account (generic CALDAV, CARDDAV, and google). When using the "add account" function, I simply see the wheel spin endlessly without any progress.

4. The music player will not play local files, and goes into an endless loop "discovering" all of the files in my music folder over and over again. When attempting to play a song (either by track, artist, or album), the "discovery" loop starts all over again and the file never plays. However, the "media player" app works as expected.

5. I believe this is already known, but the gallery function/app doesn't work at all for browsing for photos. It simply displays a white shell with a menu with choices for "photos" and "events".

6. I'm pretty sure this is a known issue, but the camera functions don't work at all (just displays a black screen with three expected controls at the bottom that don't appear to get anything working).

7. This may not fall under the UT umbrella, but Dekko is a bit of a trainwreck. When setting up an account, the input is not echoed to the display, unless you use the task switcher then jump back into the app. When an account is finally set up, message headers appear as (mostly) expected, but the message itself is not accessible (using either a standard POP3 or IMAP account).

On the wishlist, it would be great if the Morph browser would implement some option for saving passwords, as it and Tor do a lot of heavy lifting to compensate for broken/missing apps.

Despite all of these issues, I am looking forward to using the PinePhone with UT much more heavily, especially when it is rebased to Debian and more common Linux apps are more easily accessible. Thanks guys for all your hard work getting things working this well.