Clock Redesign Ideas

CiberSheep

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:
the awkward to access alarm page

Bottom edge access to most wanted features is a «standard» in the OS:

Dialer > open the bottom edge to see recent calls
Calendar > trigger bottom edge to add appointments
Messanges > bottom edge to create a new SMS
Weather > add cities
Notes > add new note

etc

cliffcoggin

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:
the awkward to access alarm page

Bottom edge access to most wanted features is a «standard» in the OS:

True, yet there is a button on the main page to add a city so why not also have one for adding an alarm? Perhaps even move the add city to the bottom edge access menu as I imagine that is used much less frequently than add alarm.
Better still, have the alarms listed on the front page as I mistakenly thought you meant.
I hope a few others are going to comment as I don't want to dominate the discussion with my ideas.

CiberSheep

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

Better still, have the alarms listed on the front page as I mistakenly thought you meant.

That's indeed the idea of the mockup

cliffcoggin

Ah, clearly some misunderstanding here. I thought that was to be the second page as it was headed Alarms.

AppLee

@CiberSheep
I thought about something like this

With the bottom-edge page including both "add a new city" and "create a new alarm".
A long swipe down on a city's clock will delete it (I know it's not really UT like but I found it easy to do and to remember).
While swiping down, a trash can replace the clock to indicate what happens.

CiberSheep

@AppLee interesting

CiberSheep

I just realized that:

Timer is a backwards alarm. We should mix them together
People complaining about the «hard it is to set an alarm» might be talking about the timer. Is terrible to do it with precision. Alarms are a lot easier

Like that we could do three sections:
alarm+timer | chronometer | clocks ?

3T_Ed

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

People complaining about the «hard it is to set an alarm» might be talking about the timer. Is terrible to do it with precision.

Actually it is the dialer for the alarm that is hard to set, it's like a spinning wheel

AppLee

@CiberSheep
Actually for me timer and chronometer are the same but backward.
Either you count time from 0 and it's a chronometer. Or you set a time and it's a timer with an alarm.

But I get your point.
I think that alarm are not that easy to set ; the wheel turning is not ideal IMHO.
For the timer I agree it's even worse, so I set my timers in advance so I don't loose time every time I want to set a new one.
I set 1, 2, 3, 5 and 10 minutes. And for longer period of time I can take the time because it won't take me more time to set it than to actually wait

I'll try to find an idea for the timer+chrono and if you can come up with a solution for timer+alarm, I'm curious of what it can be.

CiberSheep

Just to make sure what I mean. This is the timer. Trying to set it is a terrible experience. It must go (the UI).

If you still affirm that the alarm is hard to set. You two have a quest now. I'm really interesting in see how you use the Picker (not joking). Would you be so gentle to record a short video? You could ping me on Telegram @cibersheep

CiberSheep

@AppLee said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

[...] so I set my timers in advance so I don't loose time every time I want to set a new one.

Uff. I never used it

In my mind:

Chronometer, you set it and can count the laps.
Alarm. You set at what time where the alarm goes off.
Timer. You set a time before the alarm goes off.

So if we consider that, the ui could be: alarm name at 10 or alarm name in 44 minutes. Like that you can also have several timers

3T_Ed

Would it be possible to have the alarm time dialer move slower by default for better control?

AppLee

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

alarm name at 10 or alarm name in 44 minutes

Sure but how to set them, it's a completely different UI.

CiberSheep

@3T_Ed this is what I'm interested to see, because the Picker moves at the speed of your finger. Also, you can tap on the numbers you see

CiberSheep

@AppLee That's the game

cliffcoggin

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

Just to make sure what I mean. This is the timer. Trying to set it is a terrible experience. It must go (the UI).

Yes the timer is such a devil of a job to set that I don't use it.

My principle request though is the same as 3T_Ed to alter the rolling set dials for the alarm. It needs to be slower/less sensitive or maybe use the keyboard instead.

CiberSheep

@cliffcoggin You can be part of «the quest» if you have time

AppLee

Slower wheel won't be good IMO, there are 60 possible values and you need to set it precisely and rapidly.
I like how it's done for the timer (moving the minutes hand) but in order to be precise we will need +/- buttons to fine settings.

@CiberSheep do you know what kind of widget (visually) we have in QQC2 ?
I'm still confused with QQC2 and the old framework and probably other things I don't know about :smiling_face_with_halo:

CiberSheep

This is an step forward. Still a little ugly. Something is missing...

Word Clock tweak from AppLee idea.
We could show the analogue clock for other places only in big screens or when top panel be «open»

CiberSheep

@AppLee said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@CiberSheep do you know what kind of widget (visually) we have in QQC2 ?
You can take a look at the tumbler in https://open-store.io/app/qqc2-gallery.ubad

I'm still confused with QQC2 and the old framework and probably other things I don't know about :smiling_face_with_halo:

It took me a while as well. Ubuntu UI Toolkit (uuitk) is a toolkit that uses QtQuick Control (QQC1) module. In the OS there is the QQC2 module but ¿no toolkit? That means you have to use the «raw elements» with Suru Style... or something similar very confusing