Tracking Nexus 5 | Privacy
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@mrlen said in Tracking Nexus 5 | Privacy:
phone, my ISP (and therefore, anyone else) can still track me everywhere I am going, right?
Well with cell tower accuracy only, but in theory they can triangulate your device, and that seems to be happen in certain cases, like for example in emergencies / rescue operations, but also "lawful interception" could use that tool.
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@flohack That's why I like purism's concept of being able to turn off GPS, camera and sound with a switch on the side of the phone.
How about if I turn the phone off. I think I'd be pretty safe then.
But I've heard people say: "Oh, no, even if you turn the phone off it can still be activated and snoop, etc". I guess it depends on the phone and what back doors it has in the OS.
One would think an open source Linux OS would be safe from that kind of thing though.
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@mrlen the only way to be 100% safe from tracking is to get rid of your sim.
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@mrlen Don't use the internet and and any network connected device if you want to be fully private and safe.
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@kugiigi said in Tracking Nexus 5 | Privacy:
@mrlen Don't use the internet and and any network connected device if you want to be fully private and safe.
And wear a mask
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@emphrath Even without a SIM the radio can still connect to cell towers and even make emergency call (to the national emergency service number). So thus can stil be triangulated by someone with the power and access, assuming they know it's your phone.
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@dobey that's right
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@mrlen we are not talking about GPS. We are talking about the fact that an active device emits radio waves that can be measured by the receiving antenna in a GSM cell and with 2 or 3 of them you can locate a device rather accurately.
Also, modems periodically send handshakes, so the only way you can prevent this is to turn to flightmode, or have a killswitch for the modem. But whats the point of a mobile phone if you cant do phone calls?
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@flohack I am learning a lot here. Maybe it's best ti just turn the phone off, until it's required.
Short of that, it seems the only real way not to be tracked is to not carry a phone at all.
Oh, and flightmode can save battery life too:
https://www.howtogeek.com/194421/what-does-airplane-mode-do-and-is-it-really-necessary/
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@mrlen Just found this on YouTube
This is why I don't want Google on my phone:
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@mrlen
Yes, GPS data are collected by google if the phone is on.
Because GPS is listening only, it do not require any connection (hence older stand alone GPS). -
So if I have an Ubuntu Touch, and turn flight mode on -- basically it is very unlikely anyone will be tracking meat that point. Even the ISP, right?
In the video above, Google only knew where the man had been, because it was all recorded and uploaded by Google software on the phone, when he turned his phone back on.
Or, short of that, I could probably just put the phone in a faraday bag.
