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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Lenovo Tab M10 HD (2nd Gen)
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        Spymaker @MrT10001
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        @MrT10001 said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

        @Lumpology I see what you mean with the browser side bar and the scaling.

        @MrT10001 so you also have noticed this problem?

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          MrT10001 @Spymaker
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          @Spymaker only this morning, I usually just type into the browser bar to get to a website, rarely use the sidebar on a phone/tablet. I guess I am easily pleased šŸ˜„

          Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
          I have too many devices...

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            Spymaker @MrT10001
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            Does anyone have any idea why shutting down and restarting takes 5 minutes? The screen goes black immediately, but it seems like something hangs in the background. I tried going back to Android and then reinstalling Ubuntu a few times, but the problem persist.

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              Spymaker @Spymaker
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              @Spymaker said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

              @MrT10001 You may remember which firmware you used: the recommended TB_X306F_S230626_230530_BMP and the latest official TB_X306F_S230940_240402_BMP?
              So you used manual installation https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/community-ports/android11/lenovo-tab-m10-hd/lenovo-m10-hd/-/tree/cd31621b6d5b80808dd9821c58279841e6fce6e9 not ubports-installer_0.10.0_win_x64?
              Can you share image which you are using?

              @MrT10001 Please, can you share your experience?

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                MrT10001 @Spymaker
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                @Spymaker It wasn't on the installer when I first noticed and tried the port.

                It was a fair amount of trial and error before I narrowed the installation down and got clarity with the installation. It it involved patience and resilience, and starting from scratch (recovered using the Lenovo Recovery tool quite a few times).

                If you try the manual method, images are available on gitlab as you have pointed to. I would now use the installer as it is quicker and easier, works all the time (for me).

                Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                I have too many devices...

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                  Spymaker @MrT10001
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                  @MrT10001 said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

                  @Spymaker It wasn't on the installer when I first noticed and tried the port.

                  It was a fair amount of trial and error before I narrowed the installation down and got clarity with the installation. It it involved patience and resilience, and starting from scratch (recovered using the Lenovo Recovery tool quite a few times).

                  If you try the manual method, images are available on gitlab as you have pointed to. I would now use the installer as it is quicker and easier, works all the time (for me).

                  @MrT10001 You have mentioned: "The porter is aware of the screen touch waking up the device. He provided a boot image which I tested and it stopped the issue."

                  Regarding ā€œIt it involved patience and resilience, and starting from scratch (recovered using the Lenovo Recovery tool quite a few times).ā€ Please believe me, I have patience :face_with_tongue: I’ve started from scratch maybe 20 times, but from the first attempt, I have had this ā€œshutting down and restarting takes 5 minutesā€ problem.

                  An important thing to note: when I installed image r73, the tablet did not stay in ā€œDesktop modeā€ after a restart.

                  I am finding it difficult to get support and share my experience. Here, at least, someone replies and you can track messages. Telegram is nonsense: you send a message, and after a short time, tens of messages come on top, and nobody cares about what you have posted. Telegram is good for announcing that a war has started, but not for different support questions.

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                    MrT10001 @Spymaker
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                    @Spymaker Quite a few devices suffer shut down issues. What I work round is to boot to Fasboot mode or Recovery with power and volume buttons, then shut down from there.

                    Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                    I have too many devices...

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                      Spymaker @MrT10001
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                      @MrT10001 said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

                      @Spymaker Quite a few devices suffer shut down issues. What I work round is to boot to Fasboot mode or Recovery with power and volume buttons, then shut down from there.

                      @MrT10001 long press of Power button will work also, but just very annoying bug. My every day work is related to QC, so I like things to work 100% :face_with_monocle:

                      What more is headache: why I have this problem on my TB-X306F and other users do not have?!

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                        MrT10001 @Spymaker
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                        @Spymaker I saw similar with the tb-x605f. Some installs went well, some just didn't throwing up issues such as battery not showing correct charge etc.. I think there may be slight revision differences between the same device family.

                        Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                        I have too many devices...

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                          Spymaker @MrT10001
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                          Regarding Morph: as discussed on telegram this affects other devices also, so I have created "Issue": https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/morph-browser/-/issues/574

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                            Spymaker @Spymaker
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                            I still want to go back to the question: Why does the tablet start in desktop mode by default? Why can't the user save their preferred mode? Any Idea?

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                              AppLee @Spymaker
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                              @Spymaker
                              Because it requires work.

                              This is a tablet and the size of the screen is better exploited in desktop mode, so that's the default.
                              Customization requires a lot of work and testing, so that's not something that is a priority, features and bug fixes as well as keeping the system up-to-date are top priorities.

                              But if that's something important to you, contributions are welcome and if a new feature is proposed, it will be reviewed and merged.

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                                Spymaker @AppLee
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                                @AppLee I understand your idea, but I think this is a matter of opinion. For me, the M10 screen is very small to use in desktop mode. For example, I use my main PC for work with two 43-inch 4K monitors, and if I had the space, I would add one more.
                                What I want to say is that there is nothing wrong with using the M10 in either desktop or mobile mode, and there's nothing wrong with having desktop mode on a fresh install. The problem is that the user can't keep their preferred settings, unlike other settings:

                                The desktop/mobile mode setting does not persist across reboots. After a reboot or cold start, the tablet always starts in desktop mode, regardless of what the user has set.

                                We had a conversation yesterday on Telegram, where one of the admins, also one contributor, and all agreed that this is wrong. I was asked to report this as a bug.

                                The customization question, in my opinion, is completely irrelevant since mobile mode is already available. As I mentioned, the problem is the user can’t keep their preferred mode.

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                                  AppLee @Spymaker
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                                  @Spymaker

                                  @Spymaker said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

                                  I understand your idea, but I think this is a matter of opinion.

                                  If it's a matter of opinion, then the one that matters is the opinion from the person who set the default to desktop.

                                  @Spymaker said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

                                  We had a conversation yesterday on Telegram, where one of the admins, also one contributor, and all agreed that this is wrong. I was asked to report this as a bug.

                                  For bug report, you'll have to go to gitlab and report it to the proper project.
                                  I don't know if this is handled by the porter or if it's part of the OS.

                                  I answered to this question:
                                  @Spymaker said in Post your thoughts here on this tablet...:

                                  Why does the tablet start in desktop mode by default? Why can't the user save their preferred mode? Any Idea?

                                  And I explained the reasons why.
                                  Work needs to be done by a volunteer, so if no one is interested in doing this job it will be up to you.
                                  As a contributor seems to find this is an issue maybe they'll be able to put in the time effort to make it happen, so that's great.

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                                    Spymaker @AppLee
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                                    @AppLee As advised by Contributors the bug I have reported already on main project site https://gitlab.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/-/issues/2190

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                                      Spymaker @Spymaker
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                                      P.S. The answer we found yesterday to my primary question: it's a bug.

                                      Users and contributors have been confused about this up to now:
                                      Most users, when asked why the tablet boots in desktop mode, are referring to why the tablet boots in desktop mode after a reboot or cold start.
                                      Contributors thought users were asking why the tablet boots in desktop mode the first time after the OS is installed.

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                                        rubencarneiro @Lumpology
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                                        @Lumpology Hi there, mouse stuck in portrait mode is a Lomiri issue.
                                        Reguarding wireless display, i dont see any issue it works as it should. and yes i tested keyboard and mouse connected on hub on type-c and works just fine.
                                        Morph-browser menu not alligned with icons is also not a device specific issue.

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                                          rubencarneiro
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                                          Double tap 2 wake is comming https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/community-ports/android11/lenovo-tab-m10-hd/lenovo-m10-hd/-/commit/f3c9b5fc2069f1105121ff8d712e63988b23a6a6

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                                            Dmytro
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                                            Can I install Ubuntu Touch on Lenovo Tab M10 HD (2nd Gen) with 3/32 Gb?

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                                              MrT10001 @Dmytro
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                                              @Dmytro The tablet on this thread has to be the 4Gb/64Gb model which is the TB-X306F model.

                                              The 3Gb/32Gb model that Ubuntu Touch can be installed on from the installer is the TB-X605F or TB-X605L - see that model section.

                                              These are the only two tablets at this stage supported by the UT installer for Focal version of UT.

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