Noble-based devel images now available on most devices with 20.04 devel image

Keneda

@peat_psuwit
Noble is 24.04 right ?

Eric H

How to check if noble image is available for poco x3 (surya) ?

I tried

system-image-cli --list-channels

but an exception occurs every time.

Moem

@Keneda Yes.

peat_psuwit

@Eric-H system-image-cli requires sudo even for channel listing. However --list-channels will list every single one of them, including those that doesn't have your device's image.

A better way is to check this link [1] to see if there's your device's code name in it. A brief look seems to confirm that, yes, your device is available in the channel.

[1]: https://system-image.ubports.com/devel/arm64/android9plus/daily/

ikoz

Awesome news, just installed it!
The only issue other than those mentioned is that adb authorization doesn't work, (as the push notification is not displayed?).

stanwood

Very good to see that Noble development is going more and more concret!
Lot of people were a bit afraid when @AppLee said in last Q&A that Noble is harder than expected and won't land before 2025....

Anyway, a huge thanks to the whole team. I know you strive to achieve impossible feats day after day...

Luksus

Any idea whats wrong here:

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ sudo system-image-cli -v --progress=dots --switch=devel/arm64/android9plus/daily            
[sudo] password for phablet:                               
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:09 2024 (5770) running state machine [devel/arm64/android9plus/daily/FP3]
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:09 2024 (5770) Looking for blacklist: https://system-image.ubports.com/gpg/blacklist.tar.xz
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:09 2024 (5770) [0x7fa66efe80] Requesting group download:
        https://system-image.ubports.com/gpg/blacklist.tar.xz -> /var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz
        https://system-image.ubports.com/gpg/blacklist.tar.xz.asc -> /var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz.asc

[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:09 2024 (5770) Allow GSM? Yes
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:09 2024 (5770) [/com/lomiri/applications/download/terminal_2eubports_5fterminal_5f2_2e0_2e2/d61afa275e8c4c6dbe0cc6abcfee7bd9] Running group download reactor
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:09 2024 (5770) self: <LDMDownloadManager at 0x7fa66efe80>, self._iface: <Interface <ProxyObject wrapping <dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x7fa6072900> :1.154 /com/lomiri/applications/download/terminal_2eubports_5fterminal_5f2_2e0_2e2/d61afa275e8c4c6dbe0cc6abcfee7bd9 at 0x7fa618a5e0> implementing 'com.lomiri.applications.GroupDownload' at 0x7fa618a7f0>
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:10 2024 (5770) [/com/lomiri/applications/download/terminal_2eubports_5fterminal_5f2_2e0_2e2/d61afa275e8c4c6dbe0cc6abcfee7bd9] Group download reactor done
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:10 2024 (5770) uncaught exception in state machine
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/state.py", line 133, in __next__
    step()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/state.py", line 219, in _get_blacklist_1
    get_keyring('blacklist', url, 'image-master')
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/keyring.py", line 105, in get_keyring
    get_download_manager().get_files([
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/download.py", line 203, in get_files
    self._get_files(records, pausable, signal_started)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/ldm.py", line 187, in _get_files
    raise AssertionError(
AssertionError: Missing destination files: ['/var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz', '/var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz.asc']
local_paths: [dbus.String('/tmp/blacklist (2).tar.xz'), dbus.String('/tmp/blacklist (2).tar.xz.asc')]
Exception occurred during update; see log file for details
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:10 2024 (5770) system-image-cli exception
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/main.py", line 403, in main
    list(state)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/state.py", line 133, in __next__
    step()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/state.py", line 219, in _get_blacklist_1
    get_keyring('blacklist', url, 'image-master')
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/keyring.py", line 105, in get_keyring
    get_download_manager().get_files([
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/download.py", line 203, in get_files
    self._get_files(records, pausable, signal_started)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/systemimage/ldm.py", line 187, in _get_files
    raise AssertionError(
AssertionError: Missing destination files: ['/var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz', '/var/lib/system-image/keyring.tar.xz.asc']
local_paths: [dbus.String('/tmp/blacklist (2).tar.xz'), dbus.String('/tmp/blacklist (2).tar.xz.asc')]
[systemimage] Sep 21 00:06:10 2024 (5770) state machine finished

?

Edit:

Ok, never mind, I just executed the command through ADB and it now downloads the files.
My previous error was from the UT terminal directly.

Keneda

@stanwood said in Noble-based devel images now available on most devices with 20.04 devel image:

Lot of people were a bit afraid when @AppLee said in last Q&A that Noble is harder than expected and won't land before 2025....

Well, it's beta and stable may not land before 2025 which is in 4 months, so very short time left.

paulcarroty

@peat_psuwit any plans for Noble port to Xperia X or this is end of the road?

AppLee

Hi @paulcarroty

The work is done at system level which means developers work with their favorite device.
When Noble will be available the port maintainer will have to do some work to bring the new system to the device.

The Xperia X was ported by Alfred and he didn't port it to Focal, so it's possible the kernel is too old to support systemd or simply that Alfred couldn't find the time to do it.
But I would be pessimistic about the chances to see Noble on your phone.
Or you might be motivated enough to take it over from Alfred.

kugiigi

@AppLee Actually Xperia X has focal so there's a high chance it'll get Noble unless there's a new kernel requirement aside from systemd's.

AppLee

Hi @kugiigi

Oh, good to know.
Then it's just missing in the website: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

Or I need some more sleep...

kugiigi

@AppLee Yeah something weird about it. It has focal tag but doesn't show with the focal filter. Also the release channels only list xenial ones.

*Enrico13011978*

One question: do I have to have an Android 9 version when installing the RN9 Pro ( Global )? An Android 9 Plus channel appears on the software channels. Is this Noble 24.04? Thank you for your work on the Miatool devices.

lduboeuf

@peat_psuwit said in Noble-based devel images now available on most devices with 20.04 devel image:

For those that are interested in development of Noble-based Ubuntu Touch, we've now published a new system-image channel devel/arm64/android9plus/daily, available on most devices which has 20.04 devel image [1]. You can switch to it using the following command:
sudo system-image-cli -v --progress=dots --switch=devel/arm64/android9plus/daily
The channel has actually been existed for some time. However, up until today images are available only on a handful of devices due to system-image server configuration limitation. Note that I haven't tested the images on devices other than a handful of devices I have, so please make sure you have a way to recover your phone before trying this.

Note that at the time of posting, the Noble-based images are still missing quite a number of functionalities. At the moment, the following features are either known to be not working, or is not tested but is likely not to be working:

Web browser

Media playback

Camera

Libertine

Sensor

Push notification

Dialer, Messaging UI

Hotspot

If you're interested in helping bringing up these features to Noble-based images, please ping me either here or on Telegram.

Do not install this image on your daily driving phone. Things will be broken. You have been warned.

[1]: more specifically, devices with 64-bit ARM architecture and Halium 9 or newer.

Hi @peat_psuwit , juste gave a try with FP4, installation went fine.
But none of the core apps/ system apps works ( launched and then killed), any special things to do ? What app is supposed to work ?

Moem

@Enrico13011978 said in Noble-based devel images now available on most devices with 20.04 devel image:

One question: do I have to have an Android 9 version when installing the RN9 Pro ( Global )?

This question is probably best asked elsewhere. This topic announces the noble-based devel images, an unrelated support question about installation on a specific device will get lost here.

Lakotaubp

@peat_psuwit Following on from @lduboeuf question is there anything you would like testing on 24.04 or anything in general people could help with yet.

peat_psuwit

@lduboeuf said in Noble-based devel images now available on most devices with 20.04 devel image:

Hi @peat_psuwit , juste gave a try with FP4, installation went fine.
But none of the core apps/ system apps works ( launched and then killed), any special things to do ? What app is supposed to work ?

The core apps seem to launch on some devices but not others. I haven't looked into it closely yet.

@Lakotaubp said in Noble-based devel images now available on most devices with 20.04 devel image:

@peat_psuwit Following on from @lduboeuf question is there anything you would like testing on 24.04 or anything in general people could help with yet.

At the moment, not yet. This announcement is geared towards developers wanting to "get their hands dirty".

MrT10001

@peat_psuwit Testing on two Lenovo TB-X605F. It's interesting. As expected most things don't work:

No screen rotation
No camera
No browser
No sound
Tanks battery

WiFi works as it has downloaded and installed updates.

Unfortunately, not a developer, but something to test.

ghazouani

@Luksus

Ok, never mind, I just executed the command through ADB and it now downloads the files.
My previous error was from the UT terminal directly.

How did you do that? I have the same problem