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    Has video/media playback improved?

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    • K Offline
      kugiigi
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      Honestly, I don't know which handles which codecs UT supports. Is it in the Android stack or Linux/UT stack?
      Recently, I encountered an mp4 file that's just black with sound during playback when played on a web based player. Local playback doesn't work at all. I edited a bit on Kdenlive and the resulting mp4 file played fine in UT.

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        gpatel-fr @hlbkv
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        @hlbkv said in Has video/media playback improved?:

        .mkv files never worked

        do you have a link to a .mkv file that was problematic for you ? I'm willing to try it on my phone if yes.

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            gpatel-fr @gpatel-fr
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            hmm, for lack of an answer, via matroska.org; I found 8 .mkv test files; 5 are playing fine on UT, 2 are failing because of a missing mpeg4 codec - I think that it is the same bug as this one in fact, the fix that is known in principle just needs to find a bit of storage space, and the test4.mkv has a broken structure - vlc can play it because it papers over the problem, but gstreamer on a standard Ubuntu workstation can't; it's a gstreamer limitation.
            So Halium has very probably no relationship with problems reading .mkv files. That's entirely a linux level matter.

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              Charly @gpatel-fr
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              Hello,

              the native video player is not optimal. As a solution that actually always works I use mpv in liberline on the shell.

              greetings
              Charly

              Greetings
              Charly

              UT 24.04 on Volla X23

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                gpatel-fr @Charly
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                @Charly

                mpv can also be installed via snap.

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                  hlbkv @Charly
                  last edited by

                  @gpatel-fr it was about a year ago, I didn't do extensive testing, but none of the .mkv I tried worked, and .mp4 were very hit-and-miss. Good to know it isn't Hallium-related, perhaps there's hope to fix it on this device.

                  @Charly the issue w/ that is that, AFAIK, Libertine apps aren't hardware-accelerated, and video playback often gets choppy (it was one of the workarounds I tried). Didn't try the snap version though.

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                    hlbkv
                    last edited by

                    So noone who owns this device can provide any feedback on media playback? I'm planning to reinstall UT anyway, but would rather avoid running into this issue.

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                      floem7 @hlbkv
                      last edited by floem7

                      @hlbkv Hi, I have fresh tablet with UTouch (24.04). I've verified that: mp4 (checked 2 files), m4v and mkv plays without problems in default app. However ts2 file don't work.

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                        gpatel-fr @floem7
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                        @floem7 said in Has video/media playback improved?:

                        mkv plays without problems in default app

                        a .mkv file is a container format, so the ability of UT mediaplayer to play these files depends on what is exactly the format of media tracks in the file. If the video track is "standard" mp4 or theora or h264 and sound track is mp3 or ogg/vorbis, there will be no problem. If for example the sound is amr or video is 'microsoft' mp4, it will probably not work.

                        It's not obvious to check on the format of a .mkv file under Ubuntu Touch, it's much easier under a PC running Linux where you can easily install mkvinfo (ffplay or gst-discoverer-1.0 will also be able to interpret the files to some extent).

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                          hlbkv @floem7
                          last edited by

                          @gpatel-fr said:

                          @floem7 said in Has video/media playback improved?:

                          mkv plays without problems in default app

                          a .mkv file is a container format, so the ability of UT mediaplayer to play these files depends on what is exactly the format of media tracks in the file. If the video track is "standard" mp4 or theora or h264 and sound track is mp3 or ogg/vorbis, there will be no problem. If for example the sound is amr or video is 'microsoft' mp4, it will probably not work.

                          It's not obvious to check on the format of a .mkv file under Ubuntu Touch, it's much easier under a PC running Linux where you can easily install mkvinfo (ffplay or gst-discoverer-1.0 will also be able to interpret the files to some extent).

                          Indeed none of my .mkv files work. I've tried converting to .mp4 using ffmpeg, but it still doesn't play.
                          What target (that we're sure it's supported) video and audio format/encoding should I use?

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                            hlbkv @hlbkv
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                            Looking into this with a bit more care, the issue seems to be high definition video such as 10-bit H.264, converting to 8-bit seems to allow playback to work. I'm not sure if it's an hardware limitation, because it works on android roms (at least on custom A14).

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                              gpatel-fr @hlbkv
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                              @hlbkv

                              UT system is based on QT, whose graphic support on Linux is based on gstreamer libraries. Unfortunately by itself while wide, gstreamer support for advanced formats is not limitless.

                              You can find mkv sample files here

                              On Ubuntu 24.04 all files can be played by ffplay, even the invalid ones test4 and test7, while the standard gstreamer player (gst-play-1.0) can play 4 of them (2,3,5,7) if ffmpeg support (ffmpeg itself and the link library gstreamer1.0-libav) are not installed, and can play test1 and test6 if this support is enabled.

                              Ubuntu Touch can play 4 of these sample files (the same as desktop Ubuntu can play if ffmpeg support is not enabled)

                              gst-discoverer-1.0 test1.mkv 
                              (...)
                              Properties:
                                Duration: 0:01:27.336000000
                                Seekable: yes
                                Live: no
                                container #0: Matroska
                                  video #1: Microsoft MPEG-4 4.2
                              

                              this 'Microsoft MPEG-4 4.2' is probably the same thing as your '10 bit support'.

                              You can install mpv with snap, it can probably play your mkv files.

                              Note that hardware support is not involved except when it comes to performance of course.

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                                hlbkv @gpatel-fr
                                last edited by hlbkv

                                @gpatel-fr thank you for the mkv samples!

                                @gpatel-fr said:

                                this 'Microsoft MPEG-4 4.2' is probably the same thing as your '10 bit support'.

                                not really, the issue is definitely the bit depth of the video, correlated with the format profile. Higher definition videos such as H.264 AVC "High 10" profile (using mediainfo) :

                                Video
                                ID                                       : 1
                                Format                                   : AVC
                                Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
                                Format profile                           : **High 10@L3.1**
                                Format settings                          : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
                                Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
                                Format settings, Reference frames        : 5 frames
                                Codec ID                                 : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
                                Duration                                 : 46 s 0 ms
                                Width                                    : 1 024 pixels
                                Height                                   : 576 pixels
                                Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
                                Frame rate mode                          : Constant
                                Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
                                Color space                              : YUV
                                Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
                                Bit depth                                : **10 bits**
                                Scan type                                : Progressive
                                Writing library                          : x264 core 165 r3222 b35605a
                                Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=18 / lookahead_threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=81 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
                                Default                                  : Yes
                                Forced                                   : No
                                Color range                              : Limited
                                Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
                                Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
                                Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
                                

                                To reproduce this, you can use ffmpeg to enforce a higher bit depth on any of these samples:

                                ffmpeg -i test5.mkv -c:v libx264 -pix_fmt yuv420p10le -crf 18 -preset slow -c:a copy test5_10bit.mkv
                                

                                and confirm it does not play on the UT player, despite desktop OSs having no issue playing it (at least that's my experience).
                                It does, as you suggested, play on (libertine) mpv or vlc, so it seems like a limitation of the default player (I'd open a bug on the app repository, but can't seem to find it for the media player).

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