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      hummlbach
      last edited by 13 Aug 2018, 21:06

      Status update:

      • new alpha release here: https://gitlab.com/doniks/dekko/tags/0.1.6-alpha1
      • python dependencies for the composer now included in the click (again)
      • build process with clickable working fine now
      • show stopper: Fails to display multi part mails (not html mails as told above)
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        domubpkm @hummlbach
        last edited by 14 Aug 2018, 07:05

        @hummlbach So as to go more confortably on Xenial, I think it is vital enough to have an
        e-mail client fully (or the more fully) operational. So ** thank you ** very much for the apport of all developers work on Xenial dekko 2.

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          te-online
          last edited by 16 Aug 2018, 21:54

          @doniks said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

          https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko

          This is very cool – looking forward to (hopefully) fixing some bugs when I get to it in the upcoming weeks. πŸ™‚
          Email is (still) vital.

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            gnu-mobile
            last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 09:46

            Have you seen the prior discussion, https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core/ is probably still the library to go for mobile email.

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              bam
              last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 16:39

              I agree with the importance of working email client.
              Actually, I would like to try Ubuntu Touch, and the lack of tolerable email client stops me.
              By the way, its curious what would cost to adopt https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Email? Can we run their programs easily?

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                thrrgilag @bam
                last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 22:17

                @bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                I agree with the importance of working email client.
                Actually, I would like to try Ubuntu Touch, and the lack of tolerable email client stops me.

                I think dekko is getting close to being usable on xenial, just a matter of fixing a couple of bugs still lingering with the build. It already works great using the current stable 15.04 (vivid) release so you can take that for a spin.

                By the way, its curious what would cost to adopt https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Email? Can we run their programs easily?

                I believe the email app like others are not open source by Jolla. Just the framework referenced above which dekko I believe is already using. Also given that Silica is also proprietary it like other Sailfish apps would have to be modified in order to work properly.

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                  thrrgilag @gnu-mobile
                  last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 22:20

                  @gnu-mobile said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                  Have you seen the prior discussion, https://github.com/deltachat/deltachat-core/ is probably still the library to go for mobile email.

                  Not sure it would make sense to swap out the libraries dekko already uses but could be worth spinning up a new project around a different library. There is certainly room for more than one email client on Ubuntu Touch. I myself have thought it might be fun to spin up an effort after we get dekko functional just to have something different.

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                    bam @thrrgilag
                    last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 22:57

                    Thanks @thrrgilag for shedding light on this!
                    Still doubt if Email is closed source by Jolla (never heard of this before), but it's another topic I think..

                    Another question: I would like to try Dekko 2 on Desktop. Is it possible now? If not, does somebody trying to achieve that?

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                      bam @thrrgilag
                      last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 23:05

                      @thrrgilag, personally I think that due to Dekko plugin nature, it's feasible to try to make UI plugin implementing chats similar which Deltachat has.
                      I see no reason to have separate programs just for different mails representation..
                      Maybe merge the two projects in the future. Just a thoughts..

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                        thrrgilag @bam
                        last edited by 19 Aug 2018, 23:12

                        @bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                        Thanks @thrrgilag for shedding light on this!
                        Still doubt if Email is closed source by Jolla (never heard of this before), but it's another topic I think..

                        If it's open source they aren't exactly making it easy to locate. I looked at the github and gitlab locations and no projects or source for the email app. I've checked this thread https://together.jolla.com/question/41724/sailfish-os-source-code-location/ which states that their apps are closed source. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

                        Another question: I would like to try Dekko 2 on Desktop. Is it possible now? If not, does somebody trying to achieve that?

                        It's available as a snap. I have it running on my laptop in fact. πŸ™‚ Instructions are on the website. https://www.dekkoproject.org/download/

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                          doniks
                          last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 04:46

                          @domubpkm @te-online @gnu-mobile @bam @thrrgilag

                          Please stay on topic:

                          1. development of
                          2. dekko 2

                          Thanks

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                            elastic @bam
                            last edited by 20 Aug 2018, 07:58

                            @bam said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                            Thanks @thrrgilag for shedding light on this!
                            Still doubt if Email is closed source by Jolla (never heard of this before), but it's another topic I think..

                            The UI is closed source the underlying things not - as in most of Sailfish native apps except the browser - although you can find pretty much by looking into the system files as many things are in qml and not hidden ...
                            What is open source and what not in Sailfish OS

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                              flohack @hummlbach
                              last edited by 21 Aug 2018, 07:48

                              @hummlbach Do we have a small idea where the multipart problem could come from? Just asking to know if we should try to get more help rushing in πŸ˜‰

                              My languages: πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ή πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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                                doniks @flohack
                                last edited by doniks 21 Aug 2018, 17:55

                                @flohack said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                                @hummlbach Do we have a small idea where the multipart problem could come from? Just asking to know if we should try to get more help rushing in πŸ˜‰

                                Maybe @hummlbach knows more than me (would be no big surprise) but, I'd say: Bring the cavalry!

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                                  Stefano @doniks
                                  last edited by 21 Aug 2018, 18:04

                                  @doniks I've just tested the alfa release on Pro 5 and it seams that all works, but you can't see the content of the received email. Only the header. Setup, notifications works just fine. No crashes so far.

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                                    hummlbach @doniks
                                    last edited by hummlbach 21 Aug 2018, 18:40

                                    @flohack said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                                    @hummlbach Do we have a small idea where the multipart problem could come from? Just asking to know if we should try to get more help rushing in πŸ˜‰

                                    The status of the investigations concerning the multi part mails is, that dekko2 has a database in .cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/database/qmailstore.db to keep track of the mails. In that database it keeps the meta data and also the path to the file in which the actual mail is stored, for example: /home/phablet/.cache/dekko2.dekkoproject/mail/1534752857.4528.nEvJp. If its a multi part email theres a directory additionally, then called 1534752857.4528.nEvJp-parts with a file for each part. The directory is there also in xenial, but its empty, so the files for the parts are missing... So the next step is to investigate why dekkod fails to put the files there i think. I didn't get where dekkod puts his log yet... I had the impression, that its log messages do not end up in the usual place... I think i can solve this one soon, but even then, there are two other bugs waiting to get attention:

                                    • a few html mails are not displayed properly
                                    • some time dekko thinks that a single part message was multi part resulting in a crash

                                    I actually "promised" (Rudi) to have dekko ready by end of august - thats seems to be a tough goal now... πŸ™‚ So depending on when we want/need to have dekko ready, you may want to get some more helping hands in:

                                    @doniks said in Dekko2 Developer Community Thread:

                                    ... I'd say: Bring the cavalry!

                                    hehe πŸ˜„

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                                      hummlbach
                                      last edited by 22 Aug 2018, 01:55

                                      Update: the multi part mails do not show up problem is not competely understood, but found and at least workarounded... Next most important thing is to find out why dekko sometimes thinks single part mails were multi part...

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                                        rocky58 @Stefano
                                        last edited by 22 Aug 2018, 05:34

                                        @stefano I can't see the content of no mail

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                                          flohack @rocky58
                                          last edited by 22 Aug 2018, 19:56

                                          @rocky58 You have to wait for the next update.

                                          My languages: πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ή πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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                                            hummlbach
                                            last edited by 23 Aug 2018, 20:02

                                            I'm very happy to announce, we have a beta version out. Get it here: https://gitlab.com/dekkan/dekko/tags/0.1.6-beta1

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