PinePhone



  • So, we don't have a definitive answer regarding the battery at this time.

    Any and all suggestions regarding easily sourceable (is that a word?) 3000-3500mha batteries by end-users welcome. Happy to brainstorm any ideas you may have.

    [edit] physical dimensions: 91.5mm x 63.5x 3.8mm
    [edit 2] Thoughts about the Galaxy J7 battery as an option ?



  • @UniSuperBox yeah, it was for those puropose.
    if it's something more or less easy to add I'd be glad, otherwise doesn't matter, that's not a fundamental component...



  • @PINE64 any easily sourced battery would make sense -- and of course Samsung produces a lot of phones. I wonder if that battery is the same as the one in the Galaxy J7 Duo, which was released in 2018? If so, it would be fairly promising because they've been using it for a while and it should remain in demand longer.

    Here's a link to the 2018 version: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_j7_duo-9153.php



  • @visiblink Seems to me like its the same battery yes.



  • Some points:

    • 1 The lower border is too large (if it has no buttons).
    • 2 Being a privacy oriented phone, it would be cool a physical switch to turn off the module, and maybe the cameras, microphone. I dont trust very much the module stand-by state.
    • 3 The display manager should be i3 or lxde (kde or gnome would be f00l(no offence ubports)) and the OS arch or debian. All the always-running apps should be gtk2.
    • 4 I hope that the pinephone 2 will use a mediatek or qualcomm soc. Not a surprise a battery of 3000 mAh.
    • 5 USB host mode ? USB guest mode ?
    • 6 A second USB ? mini hdmi ? But all those holes in the box could be a problem for water resistantce...
    • 7 Some feature could be battery kiIIer, like sensors are always on ? And the rgb led is fun (less bright /efficent ?) but I hope it doesnt use 3 pwm! it would kiII the battery. Also there could be minor useless module features that are on by default, must verify that.
    • 8 Is the modem chip on the main board ? Then why not to use directly the qualcomm 9x07 modem rather than the quectel based on it ?
    • 9 Why there are more discussions on the phone here than on the pine64 forum ?
    • 10 After the first launch you will need a period of testing to verify that the module doesnt spy. The threat can come from queltel qualc0m or andr0id small tools
      update:
    • 11 Multi boot
      -12 Recovery from brick(boot from sdcard?)

    Sayd that, I love it! I want one as soon as possible!


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    @Jackl said in PinePhone:

    2 Being a privacy oriented phone, it would be cool a physical switch to turn off the module, and maybe the cameras, microphone. I dont trust very much the module stand-by state.

    It will have physical switched for all those 🙂

    @Jackl said in PinePhone:

    • 3 The display manager should be i3 or lxde (kde or gnome would be f00l(no offence ubports)) and the OS arch or debian. All the always-running apps should be gtk2.

    gtk on phones is a bad idea. It's not designed for low end hardware nor is it designed to work on a phone form factor. Why do you want gtk?
    Qt has superior performance on embedded, ARM based devices. Also LXDE is moving to LXQT which is qt based.

    UBports does not use kde or gnome, we use unity8 that's crafted specifically to work on phones and desktop alike, based on qt.

    i3 would be hard to use? no keyboard?

    But you can run whatever you want 🙂 there is debian builds already for it, and i know other project are working on it as well, like arch, plasma mobile, etc.

    @Jackl said in PinePhone:

    4 I hope that the pinephone 2 will use a mediatek or qualcomm soc. Not a surprise a battery of 3000 mAh.

    It will use the allwinner a64



  • @Jackl since you're not all that interested in Ubuntu Touch anyway, maybe you'd prefer to discuss at https://forum.pine64.org/. This forum has more discussions because there are a lot of people interested in Ubuntu Touch on the PinePhone, you'll probably find similar discussions at any other partner project's preferred meeting place.



  • Any specifics on the MALI-400? number of cores, speed?



  • @snailmail
    The Mali-400 is part of the A64. Those are the specs you are looking for.



  • @Jackl said in PinePhone:

    • 9 Why there are more discussions on the phone here than on the pine64 forum ?

    I think it is partly because there is no dedicated pinephone section in the Pine64 forum yet.

    The other parts of the equation are that UB Touch looks like the most likely distribution to be device-ready by the release date (although that's just my perception based on superficial observation from a great distance) and the community here seems friendly and engaged.



  • @trainailleur we have tentatively decided on the Samsung J7 3000mha form-factor battery. The key word here is 'tentatively' - apparently one or more factories are happy to accommodate this request, but obviously we'll know more when the inside of the body starts getting worked on.



  • @mymike IR is a no.



  • I think this looks fantastic and for the price, I see no reason not to get one. In fact, I already convinced my wife I'll be grabbing one when it drops as well as one for our youngest as her first phone. Very excited to see how UT development goes on this.



  • @mariogrip said in PinePhone:

    It will have physical switched for all those

    Cool!

    Qt has superior performance on embedded, ARM based devices.

    This is new, didn't know that.

    i3 would be hard to use? no keyboard?

    With toolbars and gestures like android and UT does...
    Notice that I sayd pinephone 2, i mean the next gen one



  • @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

    @trainailleur we have tentatively decided on the Samsung J7 3000mha form-factor battery. The key word here is 'tentatively' - apparently one or more factories are happy to accommodate this request, but obviously we'll know more when the inside of the body starts getting worked on.

    OP updated with this and the LED info. Thanks for keeping us up with the latest info!



  • Just wanted to confirm that we will be going with the Samsung J7 battery - they are reliable, relatively inexpensive and easily attainable in most places we checked ... they will also be around for quite some time.
    We trust everyone is happy with this decision.



  • @PINE64 I seriously cannot wait for this phone. It's so cool to see such a down-to-earth project coming together.


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    Posted in the German UBports group:
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    #PlasmaMobile on postmarketOS running on Pine64's Pinephone development kit.



  • Hey all,
    Will be getting a Pinephone mockup as well as other stuff announced at FOSDEM soon, and figured I could do a livestream showcasing it all and answering whatever I can live. I am thinking about the 28th at 22:00 GMT - this is a Sunday and will likely work best for most people.
    Once the parcel clears customs, and I know for certain that the stuff will be delivered to me on time, I'll let you all know and provide the streaming link. Lets hope customs are kind and it all goes smoothly 😉



  • That sounds great. I'm interested to see the mockup and the time is perfect for us on the Pacific coast. 🙂


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