@ikoz sure, one can remount the filesystem read/write and do things the 'hacky' way. Bit I am encouraging interested users to explore, and maybe find, ways that achieve the same goal without working against the system.

@moredevelopers Hi. Here we discourage our forum users to install random clicks on their devices

You say this is a big project. Is there then any reason you need external testers? Is it a lack of devices, or?

@Salah No, you misunderstand my meaning. I meant, how did you go about changing the icons. What files did you touch? Could you do the same only changing / adding files in your $HOME folder? If yes, then it is worth trying to do the same on UT. If not, then it will not be possible to do it in the same way you did it on your desktop.

@Salah As I said, no one has really tried, since it is not something that is encouraged or supported. But my philosophy is, maybe there is a way to do this in a way that does not interfere with the read-only filesystem. Maybe just nobody has come across it.

For instance, you can add more fonts to the OS by placing them in the .fonts folder in your $HOME directory. (only really useful for apps that allow you to select fonts, but still)

You said you have customized your Ubuntu Mate. How did you do it?

@Salah said in Access UT system copy and move files:

@arubislander Thank you for your reply. Now I understand how it works and finally I have managed to update to UT 20.04 by clicking on update in channel.

Glad you got it to update. Now you are on a supported version and we are all on the same page.

I thought tweaking some icons won't harm UT Updates.

Well, to be honest, it has never been attempted. You are welcome to try. As long as you do the tweaking in your $HOME folder, nothing you do should a) harm updates or b) be irreversible.

In this case will stick to what ever UT provides and hope that 22.04 version will come any soon with a good experience.

There will not be a 22.04 version. The next major update (which might be around the end of this year, or around the beginning of the next) will be based on 24.04. Before that time there will surely be a few more regular OTA updates still based on 20.04, which is fine in itself, because we still have upstream support for security patches from Ubuntu.

Thanks

Glad to help!

@Salah

UT aims to be an opinionated OS with a consistent user experience.

I understand from your other post that you are running 16.04. This is not advised as that version is officially unmaintained, and has been for a while now.

Even on Desktop Ubuntu, it is not advisable to directly add / edit / delete files to /usr/share/sounds. The place to do that would be ~/.local/share/sounds. This is the same for Ubuntu Touch.

@developerbayman We have heard of this fabled solution, yes. But up to now have not seen a reproducible instance of it in action, unfortunately.

@developerbayman We are happy for your love. But I fear it might not be mutual for long if you flood the forum with your idea of what would take UT to the next level, if it means making it more like Rhino or Droidian. People can only take so much of, what becomes to them, badgering. Listen, I appreciate your enthusiasm, I truly do. But as a project we have been through this back and forth ad nauseam, if not with you, with others. And really, we have no desire of being another Droidian.

If what you say is true, that opening up and becoming more "linuxy" would bring in a flood of new applications (and I would like to add the qualifier) that work as well on a small screen as on larger screens, do we already see this effect with e.g. Droidian? And even if there were an influx of apps on those platforms, such applications could theoretically be repackaged as clicks and made available for UT too. Someone just needs to want it badly enough to make it happen.

Futhermore, clicks are not the issue that is 'holding the OS back', old libraries are. Many of the latest linux mobile apps require newer libraries than are available on 20.04. Updating UT to 24.04, a work that is already in progress, is a huge undertaking, and that isn't necessarily because of the peculiarities of UT that seem to trip you up the most. It is very much the Linux and Open Source way to repackage Open Source apps to 'exotic' formats, see snaps, and Nix packages. NixOS's packaging choice is not stopping it from being the current darling of the Linux hipster community.

Finally I would like you to consider if it is not possible that the reason this Community is much more pleasant, in your estimation, than others for similar projects, might just be due to the way UT is set up. This OS targets a different type of user than does Droidian for instance, that makes the make up of the community different. If we became another Droidian in the software area, chances are huge, we would also become another Droidian community-wise. Then you would have also lost the one-thing you appreciate most about this project.

@developerbayman Have you taken a look at Rhino Linux? It is Ubuntu based (which would I think be the only thing that would set UT apart from Droidian, if your advice were followed). The only thing is that they only have images for Pine64 devices, besides iso images for desktop and Raspberry Pi's.

@Dave your experience is the expected result. If the new option worked with the old screen there would be no need to keep the old option around.