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I did find & install snap for Thunderbird a couple days ago. Installs, but not open (actually, a 'fuzzy box with a text bar at top appears, but nothing in fuzzy box). Then tried series of questions on Google AI 'reasoning model' via browser. It had a series of troubleshooting commands to type in to terminal. I did not follow through yet due to sharing the same display between UT phone and main PC doing the AI thread. Summary was AI estimate of required spending approximately 10 hours on configuration, IF using UT on a phone that had WIRED external monitor, USB Keyboard, mouse, etc. AI thought MANY more hours required if using a wireless external display.
I gave up on Thunderbird at that point.

Please don't ask any AI how to get software to work on UT. Their training data does not contain the required info, and the correct steps cannot be extrapolated from whatever they were trained on, since sometimes the correct steps are either unknown, unfeasible for an end user, or simply don't exist yet.

Regarding the snaps from Mozilla (Firefox and Thunderbird, both) they are known not to work on UT as they are trying to use Wayland. They could be forced to use XWayland, but by then one might as well just install the click or the deb.

arubislander

@mango Thank you for your insights. Are you able to help implement the changes you are mentioning?

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@pparent Probably due to all the mandatory vibe coding going on everywhere these days in companies forcing their devs to dogfood the inhouse AI.

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@Lumpology the N10 5G has volte support. Since the N100 is the same port, I would have expected that to have support as well.

@mario.ch, have you tried it recently with 24.04.1/stable?

arubislander

@libremax said in Where does Ubuntu Touch come from? And why clarify it?:

With the current communication about Ubuntu Touch (which doesn't make explicit the extent of the resources involved in building it), the newcomer may believe that it's something cooked up by a dozen or so guys and therefore has no chance of getting anywhere near the competitors.

The reason I use the word 'unhelpful' is because mentioning all the upstream components and the development that goes into those, does not affect in the least the viability of this project in particular. All these upstream components will continue to be produced with or without UT, because they are not produced specifically for UT. They are widely used in other Linux distro's.

UT is based on Ubuntu, so it is heavily dependent on software libraries that are packaged by Canonical and the Ubuntu Community. Yet Canonical no longer develops UT. So all the bits that make UT its own thing are now maintained, developed and updated by the UBports community.

Let us compare the situation to brand X car factory. They are dependent on suppliers and manufacturers for many of the parts for their car, so they source those from well established suppliers that are also used by every other car manufacturing company. There will be some custom parts that are produced by the brand X car factory themselves. If brand X is a small player in the automotive industry, then their supply chain is of course very important, but not the weakest link in the process of producing their cars.

To boost their appeal to investors they could mention all the effort that goes into the components in their supply chain, as if all these efforts were expended directly to produce brand X. While this would give a more complete picture of the whole manufacturing process, it would also be misleading, in a sense, because all the upstream components would be manufactured anyway, and the effort expended there would in no way make brand X more viable and future proof.

Their own smaller production and assembly capacity would be what investors would need to factor in and keep an eye on, and that is where brand x company would need to improve to be perceived as more viable.

arubislander

@libremax while what you say is true, it is also unhelpful, in that it makes it seem like there are many more developers involved in maintaining it than there actually are, raising the spectre of unreasonable expectations.

The parts of UT that make so eminently suited for mobile devices (and this includes Lomiri itself) are in fact for the most part maintained and developed by a handful of devs, including those contributing in their spare time.

The other parts you talk about are common to all Linux distro's. And while UT would not exist without them, they are not what makes UT what it is.

arubislander

@mobbs please take the cautions in the message before yours at heart.

As this is really a very old post and it has been made clear that installing UT on Gigaset devices is not supported I will lock this thread.

If you feel the topic needs further discussion please strat a new thread.

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@delijati Do you want to setup your RasPi as an OTA server for UT? Or are you looking to set up your RasPi to receive OTA updates?

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@tigermoth without being able to permanently unlock the bootloader this is a non-starter, anyone's feeling notwithstanding.

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@tigermoth Not aware of any such phones, do you have examples?

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