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  • RE: http://repo2.ubports.com/dists/focal/InRelease blocked?

    @CiberSheep seems to be up to me? btw we can use repo.ubports.com now, repo2 is just a mirror.

    posted in General
    mariogripM
    mariogrip
  • Smooth Edges: Bug Report (updated 25, 2025)

    Smooth Edges: Current Bug Report

    Ubuntu Touch Bug Fixing Initiative

    Updated: November 27, 2024
    Source: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11644/smooth-edges-name-pending-let-s-fix-the-bugs-that-drive-you-mad

    I'll keep this up to date

    Note this is taken directly, this will need to be cleaned up once collecting is done

    Table of Contents

    1. Priority 0: Platform Viability
    2. Priority 1: Core System Stuff
    3. Priority 2: Basic Phone Features
    4. Priority 3: Daily Use
    5. Priority 4: Polish
    6. Priority 5: Nice to Have
    7. Installer Issues
    8. General Themes

    Priority 0: Platform Viability

    Definition: Issues that affect the viability and sustainability of the platform itself.

    Device Hardware & Support

    • Most phones are 5+ years old - No one wants to invest in outdated phones with poor batteries. Future development not guaranteed, relies on individual contributors. Suggested solution: New "primary device" released every two years.

    Priority 1: Core System Stuff

    Definition: Boot loops, crashes, phone completely unusable. Fix immediately.

    System Stability

    • Random Lomiri crashes - System randomly crashing
    • Lomiri freezing/crashing after extended use - Phone gets stuck/freezes after using it longer without rebooting or using more than 3-4 apps. Lomiri crashes and restarts.
    • Lomiri crashes on shutdown/restart - Bug since 2015: When you've opened more than 3 apps and try to restart/poweroff, Lomiri crashes and restarts. Have to select restart/poweroff again.
    • Passcode prompt stops working (Volla Quintus, 1.x daily channel) - Number keys don't enter characters or phone doesn't respond to full passcode entry
    • Battery drainage on LTE - Missing proper app state management (background/foreground/suspended). Works on 2G with battery-saver app, but phone lasting less than a full day is not reliable.
    • Daily reboots without command (Poco NFC X3) - Device reboots and disconnects SIM about every 12 hours (device-specific)

    Networking & VPN

    • OpenVPN non-functional/unfriendly - Can't access corporate networks, complicated terminal setup that doesn't work

    Device-Specific

    • Apps not properly accessing apparmor - Camera app on OP5T and other devices have apparmor errors in logs, unclear if they're important or can be ignored
    • Mobile data on SIM2 doesn't work - PR exists for this issue

    Priority 2: Basic Phone Features

    Definition: Calls, SMS, WiFi, Bluetooth, notifications, camera. If these don't work, it's not really a phone.

    Bluetooth Connectivity

    • Car Bluetooth connectivity issues:
      • Bluetooth audio playback problems in car
      • Car refuses to turn up music volume
      • Contacts don't sync - only shows numbers when calling, not names
      • Music controls (play/pause/previous) unreliable from car/headphones
      • Music auto-continues after Bluetooth disconnect
      • Answering calls while driving unreliable due to connectivity/UI issues
    • General Bluetooth improvements needed - Usable with certain prerequisites but could be better
    • Bluetooth almost unusable - No file transfer possible, no HFP (hands-free profile) in cars

    Email & Notifications

    • IMAP email notifications don't work (outside Gmail)
    • Green email icon persists even after viewing notifications - should revert to non-active state after checking
    • Keeping Dekko updated or replacing it - Email is critical feature for most users

    Camera

    • Multiple cameras not supported - Devices with multiple cameras (e.g., Volla Quintus with 3 cameras) can't switch lenses in main camera app, though test apps can access them
    • Camera too slow, images blurry with motion or bad lighting (may be device-specific)
    • Camera app lags behind Android - Slow focus, missing macro function, wide angle, panorama modes
    • Camera app crashes - Daily crashes or device-specific, requires reboot (Poco NFC X3 and other devices)
    • Camera image quality poor - All pictures and videos have colors off and overall poor quality (may be device-specific)
    • Camera not fully supported - Partial hardware support on some devices

    Communication Features

    • VoLTE - Needed for calls, will be required across Europe in coming years. Not reliable yet, becoming "basic phone functionality" in more countries
    • VoLTE issues - Phone app freezes when receiving call while already online with VoLTE enabled, requires reboot. Switching to airplane mode often disconnects VoLTE, requires reboot.
    • RCS (Rich Communication Services) - SMS/MMS replacement, will be next big point for UT

    Security

    • Encryption should be mandatory - Several users left UT because of lack of encryption. Entire device should be encrypted when powered off. Bonus: lock-screen encryption like Android.

    Display & Interface

    • Display cutouts and rounded corners not handled - Makes upper taskbar display incorrectly (especially FP5), restricts usage of indicators. Clock not fully visible. Nowadays a must, instant frustration for new users with no option to set it correctly.
    • Notch handling + too many indicators:
      • Dual SIM with roaming = 4 network icons alone
      • Rotation lock is entire pull-down with one item
      • Many pull-downs have only 2 items
      • Suggested: Remove rotation lock, Bluetooth, GPS icons entirely from header
      • Merge dual SIM icons into one
      • Email icon should only show when there's a notification
    • Notification area too fragmented - Better to have less indicators or option to reach most used on same "page". Hard to swipe down without accidentally selecting wrong indicator.
    • Lomiri must avoid rounded corners and camera notch - Bring indicators under camera notch

    Browser

    • Morph browser old and falling behind - Mentioned by multiple users as Priority 2
    • App menu too long (12 actions) and redundant - Use ToolBar for additional actions
    • Downloads not integrated in indicator since Oxide

    Messaging

    • Improvements needed in Teleports, Matrix, Signal apps - Messengers are most used smartphone apps
    • Call/video call options needed in browser and messengers

    Backup

    • Backup function should be in UT installer or at least have tutorial/instructions
    • AGPS missing - Navigation hard to rely on without it
    • Data backup and syncing missing

    Priority 3: Daily Use

    Definition: Browser crashes, app store issues, keyboard problems, file management. The stuff you hit every day.

    Browser Issues (QtWebEngine)

    • Outdated QtWebEngine - Most frequently mentioned issue
    • Firefox alternative has no clipboard
    • No autoplay disable option in native browser
    • Poor web smoothness

    Keyboard Problems

    • Keyboard crashes during active SMS/chat conversations - "Gets my pulse going"
    • Random OSK crashes
    • Keyboard positioning too low - Need ability to raise/lower keyboard. Ambot installer keyboard works better.
    • OSK issues:
      • Predictive text gets in the way
      • Weird behavior when typing/deleting
      • Paste doesn't work between apps

    Multimedia & Files

    • Nextcloud photo sync unreliable
    • Gallery loads slowly
    • Video playback issues - One of UT's weakest points since beginning:
      • Poor UX in Camera app preview - opens separate Video app that stays open after playback
      • Video flipping at end of playback
      • App crashes (e.g., in Teleports)
      • Totally stops working on some devices until restart of media hub or reboot
      • Experience generally bad
    • Camera app crashes (device specific but affects several devices)
    • Too slow to take picture/video - Too much delay, sometimes fails and needs reboot

    Navigation & Location

    • Navigation apps unreliable/non-functional - Forces use of Waydroid
    • GPS position doesn't work reliably in webview (works in PureMaps) - Orientation/compass problem, important for Google Maps public transport itineraries
    • Faster GPS needed - Initial fix can be slow, too slow for reliable navigation
    • GPS too slow - General positioning speed issue

    Calendar & Contacts

    • Calendar sync failures with Google/Nextcloud - Leads to missed meetings. Event links and call info not clickable/openable
    • Call history unclear - Hard to track communication sequence with contacts (missed calls, outgoing, answered)
    • Date indicator - Tapping dates doesn't show all calendar entries

    Networking

    • Cellular network re-connection sometimes needs reboot
    • Loses cellular data connection (especially dual SIM) - Have to switch from 3G to LTE/4G in settings to get internet back
    • MMS doesn't work if WiFi is On
    • Dual SIM boot issues - Sometimes boots with only one SIM working or none, requiring reboot. Can also change default parameters to SIM2 that persist even after reboot with SIM1.
    • WiFi always trying to connect to last used network - Instead of the one with the best signal

    VPN

    • No usable VPN UI - Required for corporate users, Wireguard, Tailscale. Terminal commands won't work for most users. Need integration for several protocols for open WiFi security.

    Email (Dekko)

    • No HTML replies - Everything sent as plain text only
    • Broken message forwarding - Forwarded messages become garbled/unreadable for recipient due to plain text limitation

    System & Performance

    • Interface sluggish/freezes - Not fluid or snappy, varies over time (may improve with next Halium upgrade). Sometimes freezes for fraction of second or even few seconds.
    • Overall performance could be smoother - When switching between apps
    • App start time much longer than Android - Even simple apps like calculator or clock need several seconds to start
    • Mir 2 migration essential - Convergent Linux apps don't work due to scaling/keyboard issues. X server jankiness is a problem (keyboard, slowness, focus issues).
    • Developer mode keeps turning on after every boot even when toggled off (security issue, may be daily channel specific)

    Apps & Integration

    • No default target selection with url-dispatcher or content hub
    • Calendar sync issues - Painful to get working reliably again when it breaks
    • Native Matrix client needed - Ideally disconnected from "Matrix" branding, just "UT Messenger" or similar
    • System-side backup feature - Not everyone can setup Nextcloud/Syncthing easily

    Priority 4: Polish

    Definition: UI glitches, UX improvements. Things that make UT feel unpolished.

    Keyboard & Input

    • Keyboard .tld button (.cz, .com) - Frequently misclicked instead of spacebar, causes DNS errors when using address bar for searches (typing "query.czsearch.cz" instead of "query search")
    • Keyboard sometimes hard to use - Writing sentences full of mistakes because of missing blanks. May be due to keys being too narrow or input being too slow. Tip: Disabling haptic feedback may help typing speed.

    Contacts & Dialing

    • Clicking contact in history doesn't call directly - Just pre-fills number in dialer instead
    • Contact navigation arrows impossible to see - Small visual indicators for swiping navigation

    Buttons & UI Elements

    • Small back buttons - Hard to tap accurately, especially for one-handed use. Major issue for users coming from Android. Examples: dekko, uRSSes - sometimes can see button press but have to tap again because it was too short.
    • Notification UI - "Clean" button should float at bottom, not positioned relatively below all notifications

    Header & Indicators

    • Header clutter - Too many icons make it hard to see time:
      • Remove rotation lock, Bluetooth, GPS icons entirely
      • Merge dual SIM icons into one
      • Email icon should only appear with actual notification

    Apps & Consistency

    • App counters/badges - Should use notifications indicator instead. One place for all notifications instead of going app by app.
    • Core apps have inconsistent UI - Random icons, different designs
    • Notes app abandoned - Needs work
    • App drawer organization - Need ability to make folders, favorites and rarely used sections

    Audio

    • Audio feeds to both earpiece and speaker simultaneously

    Security Perception

    • Lack of security trust - Unlocked bootloader, corporate data/banking inside Waydroid creates feeling of insecurity

    Device-Specific

    • Under-screen fingerprint reader doesn't work (Volla Quintus)
    • Fingerprint reader activation - Would be nice to unlock Lomiri without pressing button first

    Connectivity

    • Connect to public WiFi via QR code - Missing feature

    APIs & Integration

    • Auto-fill/auto-type APIs missing - Copying/pasting passwords is inefficient and insecure
    • KDE Connect port needed - Phone/computer sync is very handy

    Waydroid Integration

    • Notifications not propagated to main notification bar - Should function like native notifications, opening corresponding Android app
    • Multiple window mode needs icons in sidebar/app drawer properly
    • Copy/paste doesn't work inside Waydroid or between Waydroid and system
    • File access not transparent - Waydroid should see home directory without copying files via Waydroid Files app

    Priority 5: Nice to Have

    Definition: Advanced features, edge cases, stuff that matters to specific users.

    Apps & Software

    • Productivity apps missing - Native MS Teams, Slack, Google Meet support
    • Spotify non-functional via Waydroid - Painful experience. Proposed solution: Integrate mainstream desktop Linux apps (Snap, Flatpak, AppImage) into OpenStore as alternative to Waydroid
    • Cloud notes app missing (e.g., Nextcloud integration)
    • Banking software and government apps missing - Hence Waydroid use
    • Snap applications should be offered to fill gaps
    • Update snapz0r for direct snap installation without terminal
    • Docker container cannot start normally - Nice to have feature

    Features

    • Shared clipboard - Like iOS/Android + KDE Connect
    • QR code reader extremely unreliable
    • Audio playback speed control
    • Swype feature in OSK - Currently only possible with proprietary code. Options to explore:
      • AnySoftKeyboard (open source swiping)
      • FUTO (source-available, open swipe dataset)
      • Magic Keyboard for Sailfish OS
      • Heliboard uses proprietary Google library
      • Florisboard has glide typing but functionality uncertain

    System

    • Core apps force specific viewport - Clock app mentioned specifically, shouldn't do this
    • Dash filters for apps
    • Backup/sync app with PC - rsync was removed (can be reinstalled via crackle)

    Privacy & Security

    • Browser privacy/security lacking - Need ability to change DNS server, secure browser with anti-tracking/fingerprinting extensions

    Documentation

    • Device port maintenance info - Not just "Last commit on X date" but also why and for what
    • Better documentation on which apps can replace popular Android apps, how to get VPN or OwnCloud working
    • Precise description of what you get by installing UT vs what you lose by changing ecosystems

    Installer Issues

    Definition: First impression problems that prevent adoption.

    Installation Experience

    • Installer can block/hang - Pressing continue button on phone during assumed hang causes issues, needs reflashing of Android. Need better warnings.
    • Raining arrows icon confusing - Unclear what's happening during download, meaning not obvious to users
    • Installation complexity puts people off - Fear of rendering phone unusable
    • Offer stable versions before dev versions in installer
    • Polish critical for installer - Last 5% of polish can get or stop thousands of users. Last 1% toward perfection very important.

    General Themes

    Most Frequently Mentioned Issues

    1. Outdated browser/QtWebEngine - Mentioned by nearly every user
    2. Bluetooth connectivity problems - Especially car integration
    3. Display cutout/rounded corner handling - Makes UT look unfinished
    4. VPN integration/UI - Multiple users need this
    5. Encryption mandatory - Multiple users left because of this
    6. Camera issues (slow, crashes, multi-camera support) - Multiple users
    7. Dekko email client needs work - Multiple users
    8. Waydroid integration improvements needed
    9. Dual SIM issues - Multiple users
    10. VoLTE - Increasingly critical
    11. Video playback - Consistently problematic across system
    12. Small back buttons - Especially for one-handed use

    Key Insights from Community

    On Polish vs Features:

    • "Polish" has much more important ranking for new users than Priority 4 suggests
    • A phone is a status object - obvious defects block adoption
    • First impressions are critical - can block influencers from featuring UT
    • For installers, getting to 95% isn't enough - last 5% of polish critical

    On Browser:

    • "Without an up-to-date browser, we don't do much!"
    • Affects almost everything you do on a phone
    • Absolute priority according to multiple users

    On Device Support:

    • Future development not guaranteed for older devices
    • Heavily relies on individual contributors
    • Need for sustainable hardware strategy

    On Security:

    • Privacy-focused users need adequate browser protection
    • Encryption is deal-breaker for many users
    • Corporate users need VPN support

    Document Statistics

    • Total unique bugs reported: 100+
    • Priority 1 (Critical): 7 issues
    • Priority 2 (Essential): 25+ issues
    • Priority 3 (Daily Use): 30+ issues
    • Priority 4 (Polish): 25+ issues
    • Priority 5 (Nice to Have): 15+ issues
    • Installer Issues: 5 issues

    This document compiled from UBports Community Forum thread "Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad" as of November 27, 2024. Includes community feedback from multiple users across various devices and use cases.

    Please discuss here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11644/smooth-edges-name-pending-let-s-fix-the-bugs-that-drive-you-mad

    posted in OS
    mariogripM
    mariogrip
  • RE: Upgrading Pinephone from 20.04 to 24.04

    @newguy said in Upgrading Pinephone from 20.04 to 24.04:

    I'm looking for a way to upgrade my PinePhone to version 24.04.

    There is no such way yet. At least not unless you are prepared to dive in and fix the issues that will surely cause the OS to malfunction after the upgrade.

    posted in PinePhone
    arubislanderA
    arubislander
  • Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad

    Hey everyone,

    Starting a new bug fixing project for Ubuntu Touch called Smooth Edges (name pending). The idea is simple: fix the bugs that make people give up on UT or prevent them from trying it in the first place.

    The Problem
    Look, we all know Ubuntu Touch has rough edges. Some bugs are annoying. Some make daily use frustrating. And some make people pull out their old Android phone after a week. We need to fix those bugs first. I'm not talking about theoretical issues or edge cases that affect small amount of users. I mean the stuff that actually stops UT from being a usable daily driver.

    How This Works
    Instead of just going through the bug tracker randomly, we're prioritizing based on impact. Two questions:

    What bugs stop people from switching to Ubuntu Touch?
    What bugs make current users switch away?

    Simple as that. Real-world impact over everything else.

    Priority Levels
    Breaking bugs down into 5 categories:

    Priority 1: Core System Stuff - Boot loops, crashes, phone completely unusable. Fix immediately.

    Priority 2: Basic Phone Features - Calls, SMS, WiFi, Bluetooth, notifications, camera. If these don't work, it's not really a phone.

    Priority 3: Daily Use - Browser crashes, app store issues, keyboard problems, file management. The stuff you hit every day.

    Priority 4: Polish - Like those tiny contact navigation arrows that are impossible to see. UI glitches. Things that make UT feel unpolished.

    Priority 5: Nice to Have - Advanced features, edge cases, stuff that matters to specific users.

    QtWebEngine Upgrade
    This is a big one. The browser affects almost everything you do on a phone. We're planning to upgrade QtWebEngine, which should improve a ton of daily use cases.

    Finding the Bugs, We're looking at:

    Forum posts, support tickets, social media complaints
    Comparing UT to Android/iOS to see what's missing
    Actually using UT as a daily driver (dogfooding)
    Testing

    Timeline (really rough estimate)
    Roughly 20 weeks broken into phases:
    Weeks 1-2: Figure out what needs fixing and how bad it is
    Weeks 3-10: Fix the critical stuff (Priority 1 & 2), start planning the QtWebEngine upgrade
    Weeks 11-18: Fix daily use bugs (Priority 3), get QtWebEngine upgrade done
    Weeks 19-20: Test everything, make sure we didn't break anything

    What Success Looks Like

    No critical bugs in stable releases
    Phone features that just work
    You can actually use UT daily without workarounds
    People stop complaining about the same issues
    UT becomes a real option vs Android/iOS

    Not shooting for perfection, just want UT to be solid enough that you'd recommend it to someone.

    Need Your Help
    This only works if the community gets involved:

    Tell us what's broken - What bug almost made you quit UT? What stops you from daily driving it?
    Report bugs properly - Help us reproduce issues
    Test fixes - Volunteer to test updates
    Spread the word - Help gather more feedback

    Tracking Progress
    We'll measure:

    Crash rate
    Number of Priority 1-3 bugs
    Boot time, battery life, app performance
    Community feedback (less complains = winning)

    So What Do You Think?
    What bugs are driving you nuts? What would it take for you to daily drive UT? Drop your thoughts below.

    posted in OS
    mariogripM
    mariogrip
  • RE: 6GB or 8GB RAM Fairphone 5 needed to run 24.04-1.x comfortably?

    @mango If you are going to be running desktop apps, then the more RAM the better. Waydroid would also benefit from more RAM.

    posted in Fairphone 5
    arubislanderA
    arubislander
  • RE: Recommendations for Ubuntu Touch

    @ufoddos Interesting perspective. And is there anything we can help you with so you can contribute to the changes you want to see (ignoring the fact that most of what you mention is either already being worked on or already possible in certain ways)?

    posted in General
    arubislanderA
    arubislander
  • RE: advice needed: encryption, alarms and reboot

    @RJDan Not while using encryption, because all the info needed for the functions you care about are inaccessible until after your home folder is decrypted.

    posted in Support
    arubislanderA
    arubislander
  • RE: App security (new KeepassRX app)

    @pparent O I see.. I didn't get the optional part initially.

    posted in App Development
    arubislanderA
    arubislander
  • RE: App security (new KeepassRX app)

    @pparent That would mean that only open source projects would be allowed into the Open Store. While I am not opposed to that per se, that has never been the premise of the Open Store.

    posted in App Development
    arubislanderA
    arubislander