“installing” UBports into a GNU/Linux “converted” from Android

  • i never tried it: years ago i heard that there are some methods for transforming whatever Android-based smartphone or tablet into a GNU/Linux (based on Debian, i guess?)

    so i guess that, somehow, we could “install” UBports over it?

    i’m asking this since i were seeing Ubuntu Touch (and then UBports) being supported from so few hardware, when i imagine that all Android-based hardware could run UBports instead without further difficulty

    would be this a kind of stupid question, or does it indeed make sense?

  • I once had an idea of emulating a newer version of android, or in this case, UBports, on android, and using root to kill all but the most necessary android processes. Or have it use root to simply forward the hardware to the emulation. Then, we'd have Ubuntu Touch as an android app.

  • i was referring mostly about doing dualboot, or replacing Android with UBports, not exactly emulation... - but i guess that all possible approaches are welcome

  • @nitrofurano said in “installing” UBports into a GNU/Linux “converted” from Android:

    i was referring mostly about doing dualboot, or replacing Android with UBports, not exactly emulation... - but i guess that all possible approaches are welcome

    So you mean replacing the higher level components of android with that of Ubuntu? That could work.

  • @Leppa yes, like that - and having as goal having all (or almost) Android-based hardware running UBports would be really amazing, and perhaps even more motivational for having more UBports users around (so they would not have to forcibly pick a specific hardware for testing it)

  • I would not mind an alternative version of Ubuntu running on top of Android, but I would be sad if it would replace as the only version because I think Ubuntu phones should be as open as possible and be as little as possible dependent on Google and other commercial interests.

    I do not at all mind commercial initiatives using the Ubuntu infrastructure, but I think it is very important that the system itself is as free and open as possible.

  • @hans1977se i can see perfectly your point, and that was the reason i started this thread as well

    as i’m a Debian user as well, i see how relevant is having everything as libre as possible - and from the other side, i see how important is to have all manufactured hardware documented, like in a wiki page (all manufactured hardware i’m also meaning all hardware supported from Android), with each one indexed with their components used, the UBports compatibility issues, etc.

    as well, would be great if we could have some guidance of tools, tutorials and documentations for helping on this process - would be really great seeing that the UBports supported hardware list can be as large as that supported from Android, i really think that is not impossible at all - this would be really, really great! :)

  • @nitrofurano , I too think support for a lot of devices would be really great. :) What I worry about is that if the version built on top of Android gets very popular for some reason, the pure Ubuntu version support could get dropped to free up resources to work on the other version.

    I don't know how serious that scenario would be, but I suspect it would mean an opportunity for Google to track and benefit from us Ubuntu users as well.

  • @hans1977se
    i pray for a.100% linux version from the gui-top to the kernel itself. (crazy workload for centuries ;) in the moment androidparts are even now in ubuntuphone...[link text](link url)
    i think it would be a compromise between gnuhurd-free-cheap-software-fans and the wishes of the mainpart of ubport-usere.
    so a little bit of propritary code drives.allways with the phones. main-reason= the phones hardware is extrem diverse spreading in months... if you are ready with the first 100% gnuhurdlinux- handy....the market is lightyears farther to the stars with new technology-stuff and now one cares about a 100%linuxphone.... to prevent this...i think the only way is a compromise between work-load-power and a little but android here and there

  • @mike , I think a bit of Android here and there is quite different from putting Ubuntu on top of Android as I understand was the idea here. :)

    I don't think the Ubuntu phone has to be completely free and open for every phone in the world, but I do think it is very important that it depends on as little as possible of closed and non-free parts to make it possible to select between at least some open and free phones.

  • @hans1977se
    shure - you got a point , lets see how we can support and learn this stuff.
    as more people working on it, its become more and more opensurce. step by step i think. :)

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