Touch 15.04 (rt) 19.10.70 on OPO CM has no Soft-Buttons, intentially ?



  • Flashing the OPO per adb, github and script worked fine, almost everything is nice, i even found and integrated the Place to be for Ringtones etc., but
    I don't have Menu, Home and Back Soft-Button on the Display active, is this meant to be like this, or do i have to do some afterwork for this device ??

    THX for your work and effort to improve this almost "Google-free" System.
    Is there some Statement, what Google will get on Info per Device/User due to the remaining Android Kernel SW for HW Control ??



  • @Pet_HH if I'm understanding you correctly, you're talking about the standard buttons in Android phones? Those doesn't exist in Ubuntu phones.

    You get the menu swiping the screen from the left hand side, Home is in the lower part [*] in that menu. On the other hand a "hard code" back button would be really useful.

    [*] Edit: Home button is the Ubuntu logo for now.



  • @advocatux said in Touch 15.04 (rt) 19.10.70 on OPO CM has no Soft-Buttons, intentially ?:

    @Pet_HH if I'm understanding you correctly, you're talking about the standard buttons in Android phones? Those doesn't exist in Ubuntu phones.

    You get the menu swiping the screen from the left hand side, Home is in the lower part [*] in that menu. On the other hand a "hard code" back button would be really useful.

    I'm a BQ E4.5 user for two++ years now and never missed some back button. The swiping of the left hand side menu and swiping of all launched apps is a really nice concept. I always miss this in other phones I tried to use.

    matthias



  • @advocatux thx for your reply. That is what i guessed. With a Smartphone like OPO and the "back" Button in the top left corner, i have an issue, because i the Phone is quite big, and reach to that < i have to change the position of the Phone in my hand, left or right doesn't really make a difference.
    In that case i would prefer to size the screen down to a Window.

    But thx anyway !



  • @guru Hej matthias, you are right in general, but as i told @advocatux , i find it hard to come to the top left corner with thw phone in my left hand, and i hate to work on the display with two hands.
    The other thing is, the OPO has a resolution and so on, which doesn't make it easy to hit the right place for sweeping.
    That makes it hard sometimes to change apps or just shut them.
    But i think, i will get used to that sometimes.

    Thx for your Reply !



  • @guru I've been using my BQ E4.5 for more than two years too.

    Sometimes a back button a la android would be handy, like for the webbrowser for example. It also depends if you're using the phone with one or two hands.

    Of course this is just anecdotal, and that's not a deal breaker to me.


  • Infrastructure

    @advocatux Apps can react on certain swipe gestures themselves, so if you like plz open a ticket for improvement on the webbrowser-app to include a back gesture =)

    To me the support of hardware buttons would be easy to implement, but the current UI has no room for soft buttons as many phones require, so this would mean a complete change in philosophy. I like the button-less design of this OS!

    BR



  • I had Android before I changed to UT, and it did not take long time before the new UI felt superior. :)

    I don't miss the back button, but a configuration for those who miss it would be OK provided that it does not cost too much development efforts. :)



  • @Flohack I do agree UT UI is better than Android ones as @hans1977se says.

    However I think a back gesture in the webbrowser app is really an improvement. I'll file a ticket for that.



  • Reading the Answers to my Post i have some suggestions to perhaps improve the Project.
    I understand the UbPorts "philosophie" to have an own way of handling a Mobile.
    But, this mustn't mean, to not support Features in a Phone, that are supported by Android, just because they are supported.
    It could also mean, to have a new Design-Feature like Gestures, without leaving built-in Phone Features unused.
    It would give any User an additional choice between two possibilities.
    What really bothers in the Moment is the Charge-Indicator that doesn't function at all.
    I honour your Work very much, but you would be doing better, to give the Users a Choice, and an additional Feature by getting al the best out of her/his Phone.
    Everything else would be a "Willing by force" from the Customer Point of view, and that is a No-Go from Marketing Aspects.
    I would take Part in Developing on my own, but the times i did SW Development ist some 35 Years ago and stuck in Assembler and Fortran 4, 77 on RSX 11M.

    Today i START Phyton and C++ on Raspberry 2 + 3.

    THX and a very nice Day.



  • @Pet_HH said in Touch 15.04 (rt) 19.10.70 on OPO CM has no Soft-Buttons, intentially ?:

    I would take Part in Developing on my own, but the times i did SW Development ist some 35 Years ago and stuck in Assembler and Fortran 4, 77 on RSX 11M.

    Welcome in club. I started 36 years ago with Assembler and Fortran 4 on an IBM /370 clone in the GDR (ESER 1055) and with UNIX v7 on some RSX11 clone too (forgot its name in the Eastblock). I'm still doing sw development, mostly with C on Linux, but in my spare time kernel-testing and hacking on FreeBSD, and since 2++ years for the BQ E4.5 (wrote some click pkg for the MUA mutt).


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