Clock Redesign Ideas

3T_Ed · 10 Aug 2020, 05:55

@CiberSheep
Looks very good, I'd be very happy with this layout. Why is it you're not sure about it?
It meets the demand for clear alarm setting and to those needing the extra world clocks. I recall some would like to add a classic/numbered ring and 24/12h, will there be a slider on the back-end to support that?

Thanks

cliffcoggin · 10 Aug 2020, 08:21

It looks fine, but apart from displaying the clock dial it does not seem to differ from the existing alarm page.

CiberSheep · 8 Oct 2020, 09:46

@3T_Ed said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

[...] Why is it you're not sure about it?

I feel it a bit ugly... it needs a magic thing

I recall some would like to add a classic/numbered ring and 24/12h, will there be a slider on the back-end to support that?

I was thinking in deleting the clock completely. I would imagine no one can read analogue and you have the clock on the indicator at all time... so both feels a bit redundant and/or useless.

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

It looks fine, but apart from displaying the clock dial it does not seem to differ from the existing alarm page.

I see I cannot trick you

Feel free to send your sketch

cliffcoggin · 10 Aug 2020, 10:52

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

I see I cannot trick you

That's a relief. I wondered if there was some subtle change my old eyes were missing.

Your survey confirms that the alarm function is the most widely used, yet I don't see how this change improves the functionality unless it becomes the main page, i.e. the one that opens when the app is started rather than the awkward to access alarm page. If that is the intention then I welcome the change.

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 11:14

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:
the awkward to access alarm page

Bottom edge access to most wanted features is a «standard» in the OS:

Dialer > open the bottom edge to see recent calls
Calendar > trigger bottom edge to add appointments
Messanges > bottom edge to create a new SMS
Weather > add cities
Notes > add new note

etc

cliffcoggin · 10 Aug 2020, 11:32

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:
the awkward to access alarm page

Bottom edge access to most wanted features is a «standard» in the OS:

True, yet there is a button on the main page to add a city so why not also have one for adding an alarm? Perhaps even move the add city to the bottom edge access menu as I imagine that is used much less frequently than add alarm.
Better still, have the alarms listed on the front page as I mistakenly thought you meant.
I hope a few others are going to comment as I don't want to dominate the discussion with my ideas.

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 11:43

@cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

Better still, have the alarms listed on the front page as I mistakenly thought you meant.

That's indeed the idea of the mockup

cliffcoggin · 10 Aug 2020, 16:30

Ah, clearly some misunderstanding here. I thought that was to be the second page as it was headed Alarms.

AppLee · 10 Aug 2020, 17:15

@CiberSheep
I thought about something like this

With the bottom-edge page including both "add a new city" and "create a new alarm".
A long swipe down on a city's clock will delete it (I know it's not really UT like but I found it easy to do and to remember).
While swiping down, a trash can replace the clock to indicate what happens.

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 18:25

@AppLee interesting

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 18:31

I just realized that:

Timer is a backwards alarm. We should mix them together
People complaining about the «hard it is to set an alarm» might be talking about the timer. Is terrible to do it with precision. Alarms are a lot easier

Like that we could do three sections:
alarm+timer | chronometer | clocks ?

3T_Ed · 10 Aug 2020, 18:45

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

People complaining about the «hard it is to set an alarm» might be talking about the timer. Is terrible to do it with precision.

Actually it is the dialer for the alarm that is hard to set, it's like a spinning wheel

AppLee · 10 Aug 2020, 18:49

@CiberSheep
Actually for me timer and chronometer are the same but backward.
Either you count time from 0 and it's a chronometer. Or you set a time and it's a timer with an alarm.

But I get your point.
I think that alarm are not that easy to set ; the wheel turning is not ideal IMHO.
For the timer I agree it's even worse, so I set my timers in advance so I don't loose time every time I want to set a new one.
I set 1, 2, 3, 5 and 10 minutes. And for longer period of time I can take the time because it won't take me more time to set it than to actually wait

I'll try to find an idea for the timer+chrono and if you can come up with a solution for timer+alarm, I'm curious of what it can be.

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 19:13

Just to make sure what I mean. This is the timer. Trying to set it is a terrible experience. It must go (the UI).

If you still affirm that the alarm is hard to set. You two have a quest now. I'm really interesting in see how you use the Picker (not joking). Would you be so gentle to record a short video? You could ping me on Telegram @cibersheep

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 19:16

@AppLee said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

[...] so I set my timers in advance so I don't loose time every time I want to set a new one.

Uff. I never used it

In my mind:

Chronometer, you set it and can count the laps.
Alarm. You set at what time where the alarm goes off.
Timer. You set a time before the alarm goes off.

So if we consider that, the ui could be: alarm name at 10 or alarm name in 44 minutes. Like that you can also have several timers

3T_Ed · 10 Aug 2020, 19:28

Would it be possible to have the alarm time dialer move slower by default for better control?

AppLee · 10 Aug 2020, 19:37

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

alarm name at 10 or alarm name in 44 minutes

Sure but how to set them, it's a completely different UI.

CiberSheep · 8 Oct 2020, 19:39

@3T_Ed this is what I'm interested to see, because the Picker moves at the speed of your finger. Also, you can tap on the numbers you see

CiberSheep · 10 Aug 2020, 19:39

@AppLee That's the game

cliffcoggin · 10 Aug 2020, 20:24

@CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

Just to make sure what I mean. This is the timer. Trying to set it is a terrible experience. It must go (the UI).

Yes the timer is such a devil of a job to set that I don't use it.

My principle request though is the same as 3T_Ed to alter the rolling set dials for the alarm. It needs to be slower/less sensitive or maybe use the keyboard instead.