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      CiberSheep
      last edited by 7 Aug 2020, 23:53

      Let's dance:

      Let's redesign the Clock. Send your sketches. Have in mind that it has to be Ubuntu Touch. Keep in the Suru guidelines and remember that is has to rotate (so portrait and landscape) and adapt to small and big screens. Some ideas collected from the survey:

      [...] we are giving a prominent space to World Clocks and Clock, which are thins that few people uses (specially clock if it's visible on the indicators)
      I'm thinking that:

      • Could it be possible to join timers and chronometer in one Section and add a Sections for Alarms? So that could be: Alarms | Clock | ChronoTimer?
      • Do we keep Sections as they are but swap World Clocks and Alarms? So they are visible when opening the app? And put the World Clocks in the BottomEdge?
      • We make the clock smaller to squeeze the world clocks there? We get rid of the clock And split the Selection between a list of alarms and a list of world clocks?

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        CiberSheep
        last edited by 8 Aug 2020, 00:11

        If you use Inkscape you can check the app template: https://gitlab.com/cibersheep/mockup-templates

        If you need some screenshots: https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/clock-app/uploads/fcb83323691e79e9e11f48344e1ac886/clock-screensheeeps.zip

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          CiberSheep
          last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 03:13

          Not so convinced about this but:
          If we don't get rid of the clock this could be somewhere to start

          Adaptive clock depending on the number of alarms we have stored

          0dcae07e-2245-4a10-9cdc-bf1baa5453b2-imatge.png

          And for those who use word clocks, in a similar way of the Weather App:

          5ba30efe-6650-445c-9eca-4f5773b19bca-imatge.png

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            3T_Ed
            last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 05:55

            @CiberSheep
            Looks very good, I'd be very happy with this layout. Why is it you're not sure about it?
            It meets the demand for clear alarm setting and to those needing the extra world clocks. I recall some would like to add a classic/numbered ring and 24/12h, will there be a slider on the back-end to support that?

            Thanks

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              cliffcoggin
              last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 08:21

              It looks fine, but apart from displaying the clock dial it does not seem to differ from the existing alarm page.

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                CiberSheep @3T_Ed
                last edited by CiberSheep 8 Oct 2020, 09:46 10 Aug 2020, 09:44

                @3T_Ed said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                [...] Why is it you're not sure about it?

                I feel it a bit ugly... it needs a magic thing

                I recall some would like to add a classic/numbered ring and 24/12h, will there be a slider on the back-end to support that?

                I was thinking in deleting the clock completely. I would imagine no one can read analogue and you have the clock on the indicator at all time... so both feels a bit redundant and/or useless.

                🙂

                @cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                It looks fine, but apart from displaying the clock dial it does not seem to differ from the existing alarm page.

                I see I cannot trick you 😛

                Feel free to send your sketch 😘

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                  cliffcoggin @CiberSheep
                  last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 10:52

                  @CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                  I see I cannot trick you 😛

                  That's a relief. I wondered if there was some subtle change my old eyes were missing.

                  Your survey confirms that the alarm function is the most widely used, yet I don't see how this change improves the functionality unless it becomes the main page, i.e. the one that opens when the app is started rather than the awkward to access alarm page. If that is the intention then I welcome the change.

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                    CiberSheep @cliffcoggin
                    last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 11:14

                    @cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                    @CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:
                    the awkward to access alarm page

                    Bottom edge access to most wanted features is a «standard» in the OS:

                    • Dialer > open the bottom edge to see recent calls
                    • Calendar > trigger bottom edge to add appointments
                    • Messanges > bottom edge to create a new SMS
                    • Weather > add cities
                    • Notes > add new note

                    etc 🙂

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                      cliffcoggin @CiberSheep
                      last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 11:32

                      @CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                      @cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                      @CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:
                      the awkward to access alarm page

                      Bottom edge access to most wanted features is a «standard» in the OS:

                      True, yet there is a button on the main page to add a city so why not also have one for adding an alarm? Perhaps even move the add city to the bottom edge access menu as I imagine that is used much less frequently than add alarm.
                      Better still, have the alarms listed on the front page as I mistakenly thought you meant.
                      I hope a few others are going to comment as I don't want to dominate the discussion with my ideas.

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                        CiberSheep @cliffcoggin
                        last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 11:43

                        @cliffcoggin said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                        Better still, have the alarms listed on the front page as I mistakenly thought you meant.

                        That's indeed the idea of the mockup 🙂

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                          cliffcoggin
                          last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 16:30

                          Ah, clearly some misunderstanding here. I thought that was to be the second page as it was headed Alarms.

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                            AppLee @CiberSheep
                            last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 17:15

                            @CiberSheep
                            I thought about something like this
                            ClockApp.png

                            With the bottom-edge page including both "add a new city" and "create a new alarm".
                            A long swipe down on a city's clock will delete it (I know it's not really UT like but I found it easy to do and to remember).
                            While swiping down, a trash can replace the clock to indicate what happens.

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                              CiberSheep @AppLee
                              last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 18:25

                              @AppLee interesting

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                                CiberSheep
                                last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 18:31

                                I just realized that:

                                • Timer is a backwards alarm. We should mix them together
                                • People complaining about the «hard it is to set an alarm» might be talking about the timer. Is terrible to do it with precision. Alarms are a lot easier

                                Like that we could do three sections:
                                alarm+timer | chronometer | clocks ?

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                                  3T_Ed @CiberSheep
                                  last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 18:45

                                  @CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                                  • People complaining about the «hard it is to set an alarm» might be talking about the timer. Is terrible to do it with precision.

                                  Actually it is the dialer for the alarm that is hard to set, it's like a spinning wheel

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                                    AppLee @CiberSheep
                                    last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 18:49

                                    @CiberSheep
                                    Actually for me timer and chronometer are the same but backward.
                                    Either you count time from 0 and it's a chronometer. Or you set a time and it's a timer with an alarm.

                                    But I get your point.
                                    I think that alarm are not that easy to set ; the wheel turning is not ideal IMHO.
                                    For the timer I agree it's even worse, so I set my timers in advance so I don't loose time every time I want to set a new one.
                                    I set 1, 2, 3, 5 and 10 minutes. And for longer period of time I can take the time because it won't take me more time to set it than to actually wait 😆

                                    I'll try to find an idea for the timer+chrono and if you can come up with a solution for timer+alarm, I'm curious of what it can be.

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                                      CiberSheep
                                      last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 19:13

                                      Just to make sure what I mean. This is the timer. Trying to set it is a terrible experience. It must go (the UI).

                                      37c827d7-9ae3-4375-b675-cf969c3268ac-imatge.png

                                      If you still affirm that the alarm is hard to set. You two have a quest now. I'm really interesting in see how you use the Picker (not joking). Would you be so gentle to record a short video? You could ping me on Telegram @cibersheep

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                                        CiberSheep @AppLee
                                        last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 19:16

                                        @AppLee said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                                        [...] so I set my timers in advance so I don't loose time every time I want to set a new one.

                                        Uff. I never used it

                                        In my mind:

                                        • Chronometer, you set it and can count the laps.
                                        • Alarm. You set at what time where the alarm goes off.
                                        • Timer. You set a time before the alarm goes off.

                                        So if we consider that, the ui could be: alarm name at 10 or alarm name in 44 minutes. Like that you can also have several timers

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                                          3T_Ed
                                          last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 19:28

                                          Would it be possible to have the alarm time dialer move slower by default for better control?

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                                            AppLee @CiberSheep
                                            last edited by 10 Aug 2020, 19:37

                                            @CiberSheep said in Clock Redesign Ideas:

                                            alarm name at 10 or alarm name in 44 minutes

                                            Sure but how to set them, it's a completely different UI.

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