The camera-app is crashing!

Keneda

@moem I agree, why staying on OTA15?

AntiDroid

@keneda Because nothing improved with OTA-16 while other things broke. Then with having no way to downgrade back to OTA-15 one can not test newer version to see if the problems have been fixed. This lack of being able to downgrade the OS or apps is a serious problem and the developers do NOT care. They want to make the choice for you, just like google decides how your Android phone should be.

RobTheBold

@keneda said in The camera-app is crashing!:

@moem I agree, why staying on OTA15?

Ironically in this case, for stability. I'm usually very slow to make system-wide upgrades, a habit I got into with desktop Ubuntu.

Lakotaubp

@RobTheBold JFI the camera is fully working, flash and zoom on the halium dev channel for the OPO https://forums.ubports.com/topic/6012/halium-7-1-test-channel/36 and I have not found any other major issues except sensors coming and going (as ever), but the choice is yours.

Keneda

@antidroid said in The camera-app is crashing!:

Because nothing improved with OTA-16 while other things broke.

Nothing's broken for me.
What is broken in OTA 16?

@antidroid said in The camera-app is crashing!:

the developers do NOT care

I don't think so...

@antidroid said in The camera-app is crashing!:

They want to make the choice for you

Some choices on uTouch has been made that are very good choice, sandboxing for instance.
Now if thoses "choices" that you dont like, bother you, you always can do WHATEVER you want on uTouch, just make the system r/w and enjoy your freedom.
OK you can't downgrade, for now, but that's not a reason to be mean...

IF devs wouldn't care, they would not be on the forum, talking with us, they would not be on a project like uTouch at all, they would be at Google, enjoying huge money each end of month...

AntiDroid

@keneda How is cropping (and resizing) photos (and screenshots) going for you?

You took 'do not care' out of context. They do not care about downgrading like is possible with a desktop OS or AOSP projects. You can still download and install the first ever Ubuntu desktop image. You can get old versions of Lineage at least for a couple of versions back. The OS is supposed to be about giving us the choice of what we run.

Devs are rarely on this forum. They prefer to communicate via blackholes where knowlege is not indexed and searchable on the web. Like Discord, Matrix, Telegram etc etc etc. That way they get to answer the same questions repeatedly and anyone looking for the answer must ask rather than search the web.

You can publicly search years and years of Linux kernel mailing lists without any accounts and find all kinds of information on Linux development, but nothing like that for UT development because it is locked away and not indexed. Feels like a step backwards from mailing lists which were honestly terrible but still better than the blackholes being used now.

Sorry for the rant. I'll ltake my leave now.

Moem

@antidroid said in The camera-app is crashing!:

@keneda How is cropping photos going for you?

I use the edit feature of the gallery app for that, works fine here.

AntiDroid

@moem said in The camera-app is crashing!:

@antidroid said in The camera-app is crashing!:
@keneda How is cropping photos going for you?
I use the edit feature of the gallery app for that, works fine here.

Can you also resize for posting on the forum? Can you crop and resize screenshots?

AppLee

@antidroid
Your remarks are legitimate but saying devs don't care is not true.
They prioritize.
And with limited resources that's the best we can hope for.

You have access to previous system images of Ubuntu Touch, but I agree that's not easy and I never tried it myself.
And mostly there are ways around the issue you used as examples.

That why we need more contributors

Keneda

@antidroid
Like @Moem said cropping work like before, resizing not implemented so nothing to do with "broken OTA16"...

Do you think that core devs should priorize resizing photos instead of updating ubuntu to 20.04 LTS for example?

Do you think that instead of updating QT to 5.12, having hard days doing so, @dobey should have implemented resizing?

When i need resizing, i do it other ways, i can wait for it to be implemented... THAT definetly does not make OTA16 "broken"...

Keneda

Little update to say someone is willing to maintain camera app :
https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/camera-app/-/issues/160

3T_Ed

That would be great, thumbs up for Marcus