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Development Planning 2023 ~ lets take over the world :)

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      domubpkm @Beta Break
      last edited by 21 Feb 2023, 10:18

      @beta-break Thank you for the clarification.

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        Beta Break @lsitongia
        last edited by arubislander 21 Feb 2023, 10:21

        @lsitongia yes you right the definition of core app is kind of vague. Some important apps are not preinstalled because they make the system image so big, that they could break installations. You are right that an app such as Dekko is very important for our user base, but as @kugiigi says it is difficult to find maintainers.

        Though it could be a good agenda point to address how to deal with the "essential" apps, Dekko, Contacts, Morph as a community.

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          domubpkm
          last edited by domubpkm 21 Feb 2023, 16:43

          Personally, in the immediate future, because I don't think that dekko will become efficient quickly given the maintainer problem mentioned and the multiple issues of dekko, it would be rather desirable to have a strong morph (quickly correct DNS and WebRTC leaks), coupled with a strong Webber.

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            arubislander @domubpkm
            last edited by arubislander 21 Feb 2023, 20:51

            @domubpkm what would a strong Webber look like, over and above what it does now?

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              domubpkm @arubislander
              last edited by 21 Feb 2023, 21:04

              @arubislander means for me clean of bugs because it still has some and stuck as close as possible to ubuntu updates.

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                Lakotaubp @domubpkm
                last edited by 21 Feb 2023, 22:12

                @domubpkm Should you not be taking those up with the app dev? Also dekko for Focal is getting a look at from what I understand.

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                  Fla
                  last edited by Fla 28 Feb 2023, 16:11

                  I didn't expect to see any work on 22.04 right now, let alone 24.04. That would be amazing of course, but isn't it a bit too optimistic? I guess many problems will be found once 20.04 will be widely adopted, so you will have to work on that first.

                  And what about the stabilization on Lomiri on desktop, being fully included in Debian etc?

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                    arubislander @Fla
                    last edited by arubislander 28 Feb 2023, 16:32

                    @fla The idea is that all of that work will be done in parallel or at the very least in shorter cycles.
                    Trying to stabilise the current version 'first' is what got us in the situation of still being on xenial long after it went out of canonical support.

                    The idea now is, rather, to have the new features and fixes always going into the 'next' version, and where appropriate backporting them to the 'current' version. This has the advantage (among others) of making the 'current' version truly stable (i.e. no breaking changes, mostly bugfixes) while ensuring that the 'next' version will not be missing features present in the 'current' version. This will mean less regressions when moving to the 'next' version.

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                      arubislander @Fla
                      last edited by arubislander 28 Feb 2023, 16:35

                      @fla said in Development Planning 2023 ~ lets take over the world πŸ™‚:

                      And what about the stabilization on Lomiri on desktop, being fully included in Debian etc?

                      It is thought Lomiri being in Debian (And other Distro bases) will attract the attention of Debian developers, or of developers of derivative distros who want to see Lomiri run well on theirs. That will result in patches being proposed to fix bugs, and maybe also features being implemented. All of this will spread the development load.

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                        kugiigi @Fla
                        last edited by 1 Mar 2023, 11:33

                        @fla I think they are after more on the momentum. The jump from 20.04 to 22.04/24.04 won't be as big as xenial to focal. There won't be renaming or moving to Gitlab. Many issues with deprecared stuffs have been fixed already. In this approach, we'll be closer to current version and getting stability in that version means longer time to have stable and updated system.

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                          domubpkm
                          last edited by 4 Mar 2023, 02:59

                          If I understand correctly https://gitlab.com/groups/ubports/development/core/-/milestones?state=opened , OTA-1 Focal is very close, but really, Focal will only be usable with OTA-2 (OTA-1 maintenance) which should theoretically follow quite quickly

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                            kugiigi
                            last edited by arubislander 3 Apr 2023, 08:58 4 Mar 2023, 03:50

                            I think one of the main thing that should be fixed are the issues after upgrading from xenial. The one I encountered for example was the difficulty in uninstalling/upgrading xenial version apps. I had to reboot multiple times and try different things to make them work correctly again πŸ˜„

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                              Homer
                              last edited by 4 Mar 2023, 09:03

                              Happy to read about background service for clickable apps.
                              Will focal upgrades improve bluetooth experience?

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