@kugiigi Oh, I got what you are referring to now.

I was just mucking around. I don't sincerely believe this forum is infiltrated by Canonical staff that are bent on making sure UTouch doesn't succeed. Well, not fully -- lol.

I was just upset with C0n57an71n for being a bossy boots. To just cut me down and tell me what I was saying wasn't even worth discussing. That kind of thing really irked me.

In any case, I DO genuinely believe someone told Canonical to quit working in Ubuntu Touch.

Call that "unorganised discussion", call it an "unfounded accusation", call it "rambling" .. call me "stupid" or "manichean" .. whatever -- I genuinely believe (at this point) that Canonical dropped UT for reasons other than "it's not financially viable".

Because look at Sailfish OS. They're making a profit. Look at Fairphone and Pinephone. Look at Purism. They're all still trying. Look at the AOSP community.

Look at how privacy conscious people are becoming.

There's definitely money to be made in open source Linux OS.

Look at the strides Linux has made in the past 10 years. It's the OS of the future (in general), imho.

@c0n57an71n Why don't you change your name to C0n7r0lFr33k ?

@flohack He seems quite genuine. But now his passion is to be creative with light bulbs and speakers that have an IP address? If he's that hard up for something to do, he should get back to Ubuntu Touch.

@emphrath I don't have the answers. I can't figure out why a lot of stupid things happen in this world -- yet, they happen. I can't figure out why a lot of people think they way they do -- yet, there they are, baffling any semblance of logic and reason; and in NUMBERS. Hoards, even.

We can discuss semantics endlessly, but at the end of the day, Canonical has hundreds of millions of dollars in assets and access to countless programmers that are willing to (and do) work for nothing. Yet, they couldn't even get UT to a point where even ONE basic app for each task/project would work? *Kind of like what Apple did.

I'm just not buying it. I know I'm sounding like a broken record at this point -- so I won't keep repeating myself. I personally believe a crowd funding campaign for $250k would get UT over the line to a point where it would be adopted by hundreds of thousands of more people -- which would generate the interest (and the money) to add more stuff. Purism did a crowdfunding campaign.

I know there are some limitations like an old kernel, etc. But still. It's just sad to see such a great project shining so brightly, but (as it appears to me) .. fading out the back door.

Ubuntu Touch is the BEST "idea". The most promising Idea. At the end of the day, it could probably even be programmed to run android apps, like Sailfish can. Like Linux runs Windows stuff with wine.

UT is like 95% the way there. What a waste. What a shame.

And SHAME ON CANONICAL as far as I'm concerned -- and I don't care what their excuse is. They have the money to get this over the line.

None of you have convinced me that Canonical didn't start out right, but got overtaken by monopolistic greed. It also makes me think twice about Ubuntu in general actually.

I'm not trying to start any trouble or accuse anyone. I'm just saying my thoughts. I could be wrong..

..bit something doesn't smell right.

It's ok. Lock the thread. My job is done here.

Gotchya's...

@c0n57an71n I'm willing to bet $100 you're a Democrat. #BossyMuch

You know what I reckon?

I reckon Canonical stopped Ubuntu Touch because they plain out got told not to continue.

I think that's the reason a lot of companies are not supporting Linux phones.

Kind of like how the oil industry held electric cars back fro 100 years.

That's why it's going to take private funding and grass roots initiatives to get Ubuntu Touch working better.

We're not going to get any help from anyone or any company that's being funded by silicon valley or any other company that has a monopoly.

Call this a conspiracy, but I reckon I'm on the money.

It's not like there's no demand for Google-free alternatives. But every time one pops up, something "mysteriously happens".