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@mito77
You can place a bet on the Pinephone.
There is also the Volla phone.
And lately the f(x) Pro 1-X for few days on indiegogo.Other phones will not be new, but I agree with cliffcoggin, you can simply opt for a new battery.
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Polarcell has an excellent battery replacement for the N5
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@AppLee f(x) Pro 1-X is a great smartphone but, precisely, I find that its battery really has a low capacity for such a powerful smartphone! This is its weak point in my opinion.
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@applee
Pinephone is definitely not the best choice .I bought Pinephone in March as a replacement of my old broken OPO that i used as my daily phone . Since that time i've launched my Pinephone every 2-3 weeks just to check if there are any improvements and it can be used as daily phone. Unfortunately i don't see any big improvements/fixes and in my opinion this phone can be used just for test purposes.
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@tricky i recommend to run the pinephone on dev channel. There have been a lot of improvements, but the main issues are still present. Battery-life, outgoing phone calls (incoming work), cameras, gps, temperture, performance and stability are still not where they should be.
Maybe also a hardware-update will improve.
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@htc_tattoo Yes, i know that it needs some time to have all those main issues fixed and maybe my expectations were to high when i bought it. I was used to how system smoothly works on OPO and i expected the same with Pinephone. Unfortunately If you compare how Ubports works on OPO and Pinephone is like comparing riding on highway to ridging on a bumpy road.
Volla phone might be a good choice but this time i'm going to wait few months to verify if it's really stable before buying it
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@tricky Ubuntu Touch is not yet stable enough on the Volla for everyone: this is my case, I don't have internet ! Very annoying ! Annoying bugs need to be fixed. https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/issues
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@domubpkm Thanks for sharing this info. Then why this phone is on second place on https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ ?
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@tricky Indeed, it is my experience, maybe for other users and different SIM cards, there is less of a problem. I specify that my UT tests are on the last RC channel, i didn't try OTA-14 and i don't know if it's work with OTA-14.
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@domubpkm
I can recommend the Volla Phone with UbPorts (https://volla.online/). It is a versatile phone and quite stable here. I did not encounter any bigger issues.However, there are some open bugs here:
https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/issues
I hope that the development team will iron them out.Here is an overview of the current implementation status:
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I just got my Mi A2. I would also suggest the Pocophone F1 which is supported by alot of Custom ROMs and according to a thread I found through googling the support of Ubuntu Touch is getting better.
These two devices are pretty well equipped and you can pretty easily replace the battery because the case is not glued together.
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For me personally, from the information I gathered here in the forum and on youtube, Xiami Redmi 7, Xiaomi Redmi Note 7, and Xiaomi Poco F1 are low-lost high quality devices with installation instructions for Ubuntu Touch which are convincing because of their clarity. You can find these devices for an affordable price on ebay, and they are powerful devices which although they are not new, but they are still contemporary.
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@peter-gamma
Although the support for the Redmi (Note) 7 seems better, the Pocophone F1 is a much better phone.
I just unlocked my Mi A2 and I'm still unsure whether I'm installing Ubuntu Touch or crdroid.
According to the UBports Installer I have to downgrade my phone first before I can install UB Touch.One think I want to add is that the Pocophone supports micro SD-Cards while the Mi A2 does not.
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@scienz Thanks for sharing your experience. The Poco F1 is really a great phone. Recommendation for EEGLAB is for instance octa core processor and 8 GB RAM. Once upon a time such a computer costed thousands of dollars. Now the Pco F1 has these specs and you can buy it on ebay for around 200 USD and wear it in your pocket.
The Redmi 7A is also easy to find on ebay. But according to the developer of the instruction to install Ubuntu Touch, you have to downgrade the Android version before the installation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV3SAWdxhwU&t=1281s
Unfortunately, he turned back to Android, and could not test whether Bluetooth is working. A Wiki for the different Xiaomi models would be helpful which confirms what is working and what is not working.
PETER GAMMA (Physiologist), MEDITATION RESEARCH INSTITUTE SWITZERLAND
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Xiaomi Poco F1 is sold for US $115,50 on ebay:
https://www.ebay.ch/itm/Xiaomi-Pocophone-F1-64-GB-Graphite-Black-Unlocked/324430926662
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here are my pros and cons of the Mi A2 and the Pocophone.
Pros Mi A2:
- lays better in the hand because phone is slightly smaller
- display seems to be a little bit better than on the Pocophone
- supported by the UBports Installer
- 4GB or 6GB of RAM, 32GB/64GB/128GB of ROM
- easy to open, 2 screws close to the USB port, case is not glued
- replacement parts available on ebay
- got a used Mi A2 with 6GB of RAM and 128GB ROM that is in a pretty good shape for 85 Euro on Ebay. I was very lucky. Good used ones are available for around 100 Euro and upwards as of now.
- Unlock process more straight forward over fastboot and ADB. No regristration is necessary.
Cons Mi A2:
- no Micro SD card Slot
- no headphone jack, USB-C to headphone jack adapter comes with the phone
- Snapdragon 660 is ok
Pros Pocophone F1:
- Micro SD card slot(shared with second SIM slot), headphone jack
- Pocophone is still a fast phone with the Snapdragon 845
- 6GB or 8GB RAM, 64GB or 128GB or 256GB ROM
- easy to open, 2 screws close to the USB port, case is not glued
- replacement parts available on ebay
- very good support for alot of custom ROMs (crdroid was my favorite so far)
Cons Pocophone F1:
- display is not bad but the one on the Mi A2 seems to be slightly better
- Phone is a little bit bigger
- Unlock process is much more complicated because you need to use the Mi Unlock Tool to do it. For that you need a Mi account, a SIM-card and an email adress. In the past it worked best with an Gmail account. There were problems with other mail providers! When you 'apply' for the unlock you have to wait 3 days to actually unlock the phone.
- price for a used phone seems to be higher for a used pocophone. Once I was lucky I got one in a nearly perfect shape for 100 Euro. But prices for used pocophones vary between 120 and 200 Euro. The 8GB RAM / 256GB ROM version is much more seldom and also more expensive.
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@scienz many thanks for sharing your experience
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pro of Xiaomi Redmi 7 Onclite:
GITHUB where you can write issues:
https://github.com/Vin4ter/Ubports-Onclite-redmi7/blob/master/README.md
this is the simplest WIKI
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@scienz said in Best recent phone hardware for install ?:
The 8GB RAM / 256GB ROM
What do you mean with ROM? Why would a device have differing amounts of Read Only Memory?
