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    Is our phone phoning home to Google?

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        prog-amateur @Markatrafik
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        Hello, thank you all for this interesting discussion.
        @markatrafik , do you know what purpose is ubuntu push client ? Is it a server related to push for SMS for instance ?

        Another question, do you know what is the 10.15.19.82 address ? I have tried to reach it in a browser to find the owner without success.

        Thank you !

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          Markatrafik @prog-amateur
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          @prog-amateur said in Is our phone phoning home to Google?:

          @markatrafik , do you know what purpose is ubuntu push client ?

          Is it a server related to push for SMS for instance ?

          Perhaps, as in Android, apps maintainers can use this feature to report through the Cloud about changes in settings (for example: a new list of maps or remote servers), rather than when everyone is connecting to their Cloud and wasting battery of the phone.

          Another question, do you know what is the 10.15.19.82 address ? > I have tried to reach it in a browser to find the owner without success.

          Perhaps it is some kind of IP network for internal use, as I understand it, the external network may not be available, for example not given to DHCP for some reason, but communication within the phone is needed, within the same OS communication can be organized through localhost or named sockets, and here between different OSs.

          I hope that people knowledgeable in the subject will correct me, I am purely out of general knowledge... πŸ™‚

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            Keneda @prog-amateur
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            @prog-amateur said in Is our phone phoning home to Google?:

            Hello, thank you all for this interesting discussion.
            @markatrafik , do you know what purpose is ubuntu push client ?

            https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5185/is-ubports-still-phoning-home/11

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              flohack @Markatrafik
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              @markatrafik Port 5001 is the push server registration...

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                domubpkm
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                What about alternative Android-based OSes 'free' of google services? ... Volla OS, lineage OS.. Are they phoning home to google? What happens if there is MicroG installed ?

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                  guru @domubpkm
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                  What is "micro G"?

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                    domubpkm @guru
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                    @guru https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroG

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                      Keneda @domubpkm
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                      @domubpkm said in Is our phone phoning home to Google?:

                      What about alternative Android-based OSes 'free' of google services? ... Volla OS, lineage OS.. Are they phoning home to google? What happens if there is MicroG installed ?

                      Ubuntu Touch IS NOT PHONING google.

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                        domubpkm @Keneda
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                        @keneda said in Is our phone phoning home to Google?:

                        Ubuntu Touch IS NOT PHONING google

                        Thank goodness for that !! πŸ™‚

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                          AppLee @domubpkm
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                          @domubpkm
                          IMHO alternative android based OSes are OK.
                          The problem comes from the apps.

                          Google's android is a huge spyware. And major popular apps are too.
                          IDK about microG, but if it allows an app that requires Google suite to work then I don't think that's a good privacy-oriented idea.

                          That is also why I don't need Anbox because bringing android apps to Ubuntu Touch will bring those privacy issues with them.

                          Yes confinement is now isolating android apps rendering them almost unusable.
                          And I'm afraid a better integration is possible by relaxing the confinement which I'm opposed to.

                          Just my 2 cents.

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                            domubpkm @AppLee
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                            @applee I would tend to think like you.
                            On the principle of the anbox, I accept its usefulness, while being aware that there might be a risk of importing viruses that would have whatever effect.

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                              AppLee @domubpkm
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                              @domubpkm
                              As you understood, that's just an opinion.
                              And on certain circumstances I could make an exception for app X or Y.

                              But I prefer to live without the convenience than becoming slave of it.
                              It's a personal choice and I understand that people make another one.
                              That's the beauty of freedom.

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                                Ingo @prog-amateur
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                                @prog-amateur said in Is our phone phoning home to Google?:

                                Another question, do you know what is the 10.15.19.82 address ? I have tried to reach it in a browser to find the owner without success.

                                I don't have a UT phone at the moment, but the very same IP address exists in the list of known hosts I have connected to via ssh. That info plus 10.xx.xx.xx being a private network address (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network) makes me think it is the default (kind of internal) address of a UT phone.

                                And now that I typed it... that IP is mentioned in the GSI porting notes at https://github.com/ubports/porting-notes/wiki/Generic-system-image-(GSI)

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                                  prog-amateur @Ingo
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                                  @ingo Thank you very much, I appreciate this detailed feedback !

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