Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration

kugiigi

This is cool and can be really useful on touch devices.
I wish there's a retry button even if the pin code isn't complete yet.

CiberSheep

@lduboeuf Interesting.
I understand why you add the option as a separated ComboButton, but I would add it as a new element of the main ListView

Swipe (no security)...
4-digit passcode
4-digit passcode clock prompt
Passpharse...
Fingerprint...

or even better:

Swipe (no security)...
4-digit passcode... -> Popup with the options
Passpharse...
Fingerprint...

I would not place the try me button in the ComboButton but outside

On the demo page,

I would make the edit button icon smaller
~~- Do you need the lock icon in the middle of the view?~~ I see why now in the test app Maybe a bit smaller?
I would not require to tap on retry to introduce a new pattern (if that's the final behaviour)
There is something with the circles and the numbers that doesn't fit for me. Maybe getting rid of the circles and just leave the numbers? Now it's a bit busy... mmm...

Lakotaubp

@lduboeuf Works well and I like the look, would be nice to have the choice. Thanks for the test.

lduboeuf

@kugiigi said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

This is cool and can be really useful on touch devices.
I wish there's a retry button even if the pin code isn't complete yet.

Yes i wonder where to place that retry button or icon

lduboeuf

@cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

@lduboeuf Interesting.
I understand why you add the option as a separated ComboButton, but I would add it as a new element of the main ListView

Swipe (no security)...

4-digit passcode

4-digit passcode clock prompt

Passpharse...

Fingerprint...

Humm, that layout would mean to be able to create a pincode with the "clock". That would need a different work for me

or even better:

Swipe (no security)...

4-digit passcode... -> Popup with the options

Passpharse...

Fingerprint...

Is it UX wise to open a popup or a another page on a OptionSelector item ? I haven't found an example in current system settings

CiberSheep

@lduboeuf

Is it UX wise to open a popup or a another page on a OptionSelector item ? I haven't found an example in current system settings

Actually, if you set «no security» or «passphrase» it will show you a pop up.

lduboeuf

@cibersheep oh yes just noticed that, thx

[EDIT]:
What can be weird is that if "4-digit passcode" item is already selected, having to tap on it again to change the pin code prompt.

Moem

I love this project so much.

I use fingerprint unlocking on the OP 5t; it works most of the time. When it fails, the standard pincode/passphrase unlock comes up. I would love it if I could use fingerprint with this new option as a fallback instead. It's just so cool.

lduboeuf

@cibersheep Aside from that, there is something need to be reworked because actually if you want to change the password/pincode, you need to switch to another option and then back again.
That option list is maybe not the right component to use.
We should have the "change password" action possible for the password and pin code.

I'm a bit stuck how i can handle the above pin code prompt choice with what you said. If you have any mockup, it would be great.

Moem

I would be interested in a feature that allows the numbers to be hidden from view (optionally). Maybe they can be shown if the first try fails? Some of us remember numbers well, others are good with patterns...

lduboeuf

@moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.
But your wish is fully understandable

Moem

@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

your wish is fully understandable

Well that's a first!

messayisto

@lduboeuf very nice! works well on rc channel on xiaomi mi a2. would love to see this in daily use...

CiberSheep

@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

@cibersheep oh yes just noticed that, thx

[EDIT]:
What can be weird is that if "4-digit passcode" item is already selected, having to tap on it again to change the pin code prompt.

That's where I would go to change it. Now, even if it has ... it does nothing if already selected.

But I see the fingerprints are on the main Security view. Let me make a mockup and let's see if we can find a consistent solution here

CiberSheep

@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

@moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.

Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?

lduboeuf

@cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

@moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.

Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?

This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.

Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.

kugiigi

Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen. Some kind of a button to switch between modes on the fly. Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence

lduboeuf

@kugiigi yes that could be an option.
Humm in my previous test keyboard was working, but maybe not in the demo ?

CiberSheep

@kugiigi said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen.

I don't think that's a good idea

Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence

and this is a very good point

CiberSheep

@lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.

I'm not thinking of other platforms but having the pin code exposed all time. I thought the pin in the test screen was just for testing purpose, not going in system settings

Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.

This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard