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      • MoemM Offline
        Moem
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        I would be interested in a feature that allows the numbers to be hidden from view (optionally). Maybe they can be shown if the first try fails? Some of us remember numbers well, others are good with patterns...

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        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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        • lduboeufL Offline
          lduboeuf @Moem
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          @moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.
          But your wish is fully understandable šŸ˜‰

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          • MoemM Offline
            Moem @lduboeuf
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            @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

            your wish is fully understandable

            Well that's a first! šŸ˜

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            Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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            • messayistoM Offline
              messayisto @lduboeuf
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              @lduboeuf very nice! works well on rc channel on xiaomi mi a2. would love to see this in daily use...

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              • CiberSheepC Offline
                CiberSheep @lduboeuf
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                @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                @cibersheep oh yes just noticed that, thx šŸ˜‰

                [EDIT]:
                What can be weird is that if "4-digit passcode" item is already selected, having to tap on it again to change the pin code prompt.

                That's where I would go to change it. Now, even if it has ... it does nothing if already selected.

                But I see the fingerprints are on the main Security view. Let me make a mockup and let's see if we can find a consistent solution here šŸ™‚

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                  CiberSheep @lduboeuf
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                  @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                  @moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.

                  Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
                  I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?

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                  • lduboeufL Offline
                    lduboeuf @CiberSheep
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                    @cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                    @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                    @moem i need to see the impact on storing such custom parameters and if it is recommended.

                    Oh, I thought showing the pin was only for the test app to know if that worked.
                    I don't think is a good idea to have a visible pin code. Or I missed the joke?

                    This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.

                    Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.

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                      kugiigi
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                      Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen. Some kind of a button to switch between modes on the fly. Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence šŸ˜„

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                      • lduboeufL Offline
                        lduboeuf @kugiigi
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                        @kugiigi yes that could be an option.
                        Humm in my previous test keyboard was working, but maybe not in the demo ?

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                        • CiberSheepC Offline
                          CiberSheep @kugiigi
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                          @kugiigi said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                          Maybe the option can be added directly in the lock screen.

                          I don't think that's a good idea 😘

                          Also, would be great if it also support keyboard input for convergence šŸ˜„

                          and this is a very good point

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                          • CiberSheepC Offline
                            CiberSheep @lduboeuf
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                            @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                            This was intentional, the idea was to provide a "test" screen just to be familiar with it in system settings. But i agree, on other platforms, you don't have a "tester", when you choose "pattern", you are asking to create/modify the the pattern.

                            I'm not thinking of other platforms šŸ˜‰ but having the pin code exposed all time. I thought the pin in the test screen was just for testing purpose, not going in system settings

                            Here we are in special case where users still define its pin code with keyboard. And i would like users just to choose between default pin code prompt or the "clock" one. Maybe the "tester" is not needed ? And just let user discover it at login time.

                            This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard

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                            • lduboeufL Offline
                              lduboeuf @CiberSheep
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                              @cibersheep said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                              @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                              This is interesting. Maybe what we want to do is detach the pattern from pin (is that possible? You know the code) as a new form of security code (like fingerprints or passphrase). That could make it on its own, simplify the UI but it would need a way to access via mouse or keyboard

                              So you mean having a list of items like this:

                              Swipe (no security)...
                              4-digit passcode
                              4-digit passcode clock prompt
                              Passpharse...

                              And click on "4-digit passcode clock prompt" ,would bring you to another page, with a way to create a pin code via the clock ?

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                              • CiberSheepC Offline
                                CiberSheep @lduboeuf
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                                @lduboeuf could that work?

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                                • lduboeufL Offline
                                  lduboeuf @CiberSheep
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                                  @cibersheep i just need to try it but works need to be done šŸ˜‰

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                                  • lduboeufL Offline
                                    lduboeuf @CiberSheep
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                                    @cibersheep i admit, this going to add more work. The simplest would have been just to add a toggle to switch between default prompt to the clock one. If you have any mockups it will help me

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                                      CiberSheep @lduboeuf
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                                      @lduboeuf said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                                      @cibersheep i admit, this going to add more work. The simplest would have been just to add a toggle to switch between default prompt to the clock one. If you have any mockups it will help me

                                      I prepare some and will send them to you

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                                      • IanI Offline
                                        Ian
                                        last edited by Ian

                                        Just tried the demo from the OpenStote.

                                        Looks good, works well. Bonus points for giving us a working tester to try it on, nice work.šŸ™‚

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                                        • QugetQ Offline
                                          Quget
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                                          Nice concept.

                                          Is the idea to keep the finger on the screen to unlock or just to press the numbers?

                                          My first instinct was to keep my finger on the clock and swipe the code which felt nice for me šŸ™‚

                                          🌹

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                                            Keneda @Quget
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                                            @quget said in Test alternative pin code prompt - system settings integration:

                                            Is the idea to keep the finger on the screen to unlock or just to press the numbers?

                                            Both. You can test it with the dummy app in the openstore.

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                                            • CiberSheepC Offline
                                              CiberSheep @lduboeuf
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                                              @lduboeuf This is my suggestion for 2 different kind of 4-digit pin

                                              From other security measure to pattern:

                                              • first introduce current pin / passphrase (don't look at that PopUp size)
                                              • introduce pattern

                                              Once set up, tapping on 4-digit pin clock... you can test it or edit. Tap on edit:

                                              • Ask for current pattern, if succesful
                                              • Ask for new pattern

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