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      • arubislanderA Offline
        arubislander @Emphrath
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        @emphrath No one who develops UT is denying that mobile Linux doesn't have as great a battery life on mobile devices as does Android.

        Drivers are one part of the equation. Another one is that a lot of the processes that run on mobile Linux are inherited from desktop Linux, which means they are not optimized for low battery consumption. Even on laptops battery performance in Linux can be significantly less than in Windows on the same hardware. Whenever possible improvements are attempted. And progress has been made in the past few years. I think of all mobile Linuxes, UT is in the top two with regards to battery life. As can be seen in the device pages, a device is considered working when the battery lasts at least 24 hours (with use, I assume).

        Having said all that, if, after an update, battery performance is seen to have worsened, this is a regression that is probably not caused by what was mentioned above, but by some rogue process, and should be investigated by, or with the help of, the user experiencing the regression.

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        • MrT10001M Offline
          MrT10001
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          So some further observations. As most technically minded know, battery drain has many factors which include:
          Ambient room temperature - batteries drain quicker in extremes of heat such as a heatwave like some are experiencing now.
          Software - we all know that app that leaves things open and communicates with wifi, mobile data etc constantly, draining the battery to do this
          Background processes
          Screen size, type and backlight.
          Other hardware requiring different power usage, including where they are placed on the device
          Age - older batteries obviously drain quicker, but certain devices have really good batteries that are still alive 9 years after manufacture and still hold a good charge.

          Devices I have that battery life lasts less than a day:

          Pixel 3a
          Pixel 2
          Lenovo M10 X605F
          Nexus 7 Flo and Deb
          Oneplus 2
          Motorola E(2015)

          I have others awaiting to test.

          Devices where battery lasts over a day:

          Asus Zenfone
          Nexus 4 (8Gb and 16Gb)
          Nexus 5 (16Gb and 32Gb)
          Oneplus 1 (16Gb, 64Gb)
          Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 (just lasts a day and a half)

          I install the following apps:
          UT Tweak Tools and use it to reduce the launcher and put battery percentage on the top bar
          Pure Maps
          UNav
          Tagger
          VPN editor
          TELEports
          Dekko2

          These are my core apps for which I am most likely to use. I don't always connect Dekko up, unless it is on a core device for me, i.e. it is a potential daily driver. I have replaced batteries on some phones with new (some OEM, but most stamped and bar coded as genuine so not cheap knock offs, been burnt with them).

          The ASUS Zenfone so far has been the outstanding performer. One charge will last over 5 days on standby (minimal usage) with getting emails on Dekko2 every day, alarms, messages and Telegram.
          The Nexus 4 most with the original battery (2013) is an outstanding performer and will last over 5 days on a single charge and battery drain is minimal. For a phone it works, but as the US is or has dropped 3g, there will be complaints about such a device, use Wifi, there are uses for these old devices.
          Oneplus One. I have replaced the batteries on some of these and even some of the old batteries, drain is minimal.
          Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 - my main UT phone. Lasts about a day and a half on full charge with good usage. Some issues with voice on other phone, but it seems OK now.

          I have tested the battery drain against Android ( I will be generic as there are so many revisions) and have found that Android seems to have good optimization. I am testing with /e/OS which is Android based, but degoogled (but they want you to sign up to their OS for updates which I find strange for "privacy") which seems to keep the battery optimization that Android has.

          Sorry for the long post, but if I can get some of this out, hopefully it may assist someone. UT is an outstanding open source project in my view. It has some issues, but compared to other device operating systems it is up there. I have also been trying PostmarketOS, which is another Linux device OS for those that don't know and is miles behind UT in terms of devices, apps and usability.

          Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
          I have too many devices...

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          • druk13D Offline
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            I've no idea why, but since I disabled "Data-Roaming" (Neudeutsch: Daten-Roaming) and enabled wlan the battery life of my Pixel 3a ist much, much longer (last loading before 35 hour and 53% battery) then before.

            Running Apps:

            • RockWork
            • Dekko 2
            • TELEports
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            • arubislanderA Offline
              arubislander @druk13
              last edited by arubislander

              @druk13 said in Battery life......:

              since I disabled "Data-Roaming" (Neudeutsch: Daten-Roaming) and enabled wlan the battery life of my Pixel 3a ist much, much longer

              Probably regularly pinging the cell towers keeps the device from properly going to sleep.

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                cj_c
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                I have recently experienced poor battery life on an intermittent basis, which I have traced to particular web pages. In particular, Quordle seems to use battery sometimes. Closing tabs seems to be a cure. It may be worth a try.

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                  Emphrath @arubislander
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                  @arubislander interesting ! I thought i heard the pixel was an exception here, that wlan was consuming more battery than lte

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                  • arubislanderA Offline
                    arubislander @Emphrath
                    last edited by

                    @emphrath, @druk13 mentioned data roaming in particular, not data in general.

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                    • MrT10001M Offline
                      MrT10001
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                      I have just installed UT on a Pocofone F1 and a Lenovo Tab (TB-X605L). Battery life went from 100% to zero over night with nothing running. The devices ran fine under Android with the battery lasting the expected time. Both are on OTA-23 Stable.

                      Apps installed - Dekko2 (not set up to send receive), Maps, UNAV (not set up), Tweak Tool, VPN editor (not used yet), Tagger, Document Reader.

                      I will charge them up and discharge and see if it is a calibration issue.

                      I have found on the Pocofone when it sleeps Wi-Fi is disconnected and won't reconnect.

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                        Emphrath @MrT10001
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                        @mrt10001 i put my pixel on flight mode during the night. Otherwise it won't wake me up in the morning

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                        • MrT10001M Offline
                          MrT10001 @Emphrath
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                          @emphrath I am testing the battery life through minimal usage, but the devices have to be functioning, like my Android and (bleurgh) iPhone. UT has not been good for battery life in comparison and OTA-23 on some devices seem to exacibate the issue.

                          Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                          I have too many devices...

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                            PrivacyFan
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                            I do testing a Pixel 3a since about two weeks as my daily driver. I have rarely calls. The battery needs to be loaded after about 12 hours if I have activated 2G/3G/4G. I know this is only an advantage for data and not for the still not working VoLTE. As soon I switch to 2G it runs for more than one day which is much more acceptable. For comparison what settings do you use?

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                            • MrT10001M Offline
                              MrT10001 @PrivacyFan
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                              @privacyfan 3g on the 3g devices (Nexus 4) and 4g on the 4g devices. Wlan is always on, mobile data is on, Bluetooth is off, location is on. I am basically running the device as I would use it. The Nexus 4 gets a good battery life. The Redmi Note 7 is also ok with about 2 days between charge and minimal usage. Overall it can be hit and miss with each device. I have a pocofone F1 and the battery life is bad on UT, but fine on Android.

                              Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                              I have too many devices...

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                                seriallnumber
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                                I use UT for several years, first with a Nexus 5, Nexus 7, OPO, Mi A2 and a Volla. Phones with only 3000 mAh or less battery capacity are no longer on my wish list. Most of the older devices offer not more.

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                                    Charly @L-01236
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                                    I use ut focal on a volla x23 as my daily companion. The volla has 5000 mAh and I have a runtime of 2-3 days. I get along well with that.

                                    Greetings
                                    Charly

                                    UT 20.04 on Volla X23

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