Ubuntu Touch Q&A 123 call for questions

Hugehead

Could you please give some general overview on Ubuntu Touch? Like:

how is the manpower in the dev team and other teams.
how is integration of 20.04 going, what was expected/unexpected, what did you learn during process
you mentioned that with 20.04 you changed something so future updated are more simple. Will you go for 24.xx?

i am asking because with the loong time nothing heared in Q&A and (i feel) slow process in 20.04 (my oneplus 6 is nearly unusable) i felt like UT is kind of dead?

Hugehead

Can you give some explanation on why Notification LED is not supported on many devices? LED support - in general - doesnt seem to be very complex to me.

In combination with Notch covering the message indicator, i have no clue on notch devices if i got new messages

Josele13

First of all, thanks to the team for their great work,
Second the questions, is there a possibility to add an off/on indicator to Morph so that we can always click on a link to open another tab and it appears on the screen directly ?
Also another off/on indicator so that Morph can delete cookies every time we close the app? but this shouldn't affect webapps because you have important websites in them and you want the cookies to stay.

regards...

domubpkm

@Josele13 Hello. The link for morph-browser issues and feature requests : https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/morph-browser/-/issues

ixsvf

Hi,@Hugehead

Ubuntu Touch is not dead. As you can see here: https://gitlab.com/groups/ubports/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=merged

A lot of work happening.

OnePlus 6 / 6T is a community port. The main developer maybe haven't find time to improve it specially in the Focal Fossa 20.04. Although, there's already MR's in 6 / 6T repo waiting to be reviewed, and making 20.04 better on it.

Keneda

@Hugehead said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 123 call for questions:

i felt like UT is kind of dead?

How can anyone that follow the project say that ? That's very hard for the devs!
Just because your phone is not full working under 20.04 doesn't mean no work is ongoing.
Look at the Fairphone 4, wich is a core device, it's a full working Focal device !

domubpkm

@Hugehead said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 123 call for questions:

i felt like UT is kind of dead

My understanding is this: UT is far from dead but the general development process of focal is very complex and young (on the scale of computer development). Generally, many problem solving generates other problems: it is a balance to be found. In addition to this, there are different particularities depending on each smartphone, which complicates things a little more.

Mario.CH

Servus to all programmers,

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for the work you have done. :clapping_hands_light_skin_tone:

After the intensive work, for the deadline fair deployments to the Vollaphones, my question:
What is the status around the Bluez stack?

Flohack wrote just under a year ago
30. Sept. 2022, 21:46 @flohack said in Current RC has bad bluetooth on Op5t:

Well we upgraded Bluez stack to 5.53 -- that might be the reason. We would need some more debug infos here. Unfortunately I will not hold off the OTA for this now, we are 2 months late and need to ship what we have. And we alread have issues with contacts, as soon as they are solved we put this into stable.
We can investigate the issue in parallel.

and
 6. Okt. 2022, 22:00 @flohack said in Current RC has bad bluetooth on Op5t:
@moem Honestly I do not see what we can do other than to roll back to old Bluez, and disappointing the owners that tested already devices that work now, but never did before with UT. If this is what we should do, then we do it. But unless it breaks on all devices the benefits would outweigh the negative impacts

I imagine that many UT users (like me) will finally want to pay the long overdue next donation when the Bluetooth connection to make hands-free calls in the car will finally work. It is simply a safety concern. :winking_face:

With kind regards
Mario

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arubislander

@Mario-CH said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 123 call for questions:

I imagine that many UT users (like me) will finally want to pay the long overdue next donation when ...

I couldn't help reacting to this. I understand you are saying this somewhat in jest, but it exposes a common misconception about donations (and one that I have also fallen for from time to time.)

Donations, by their very nature, should not be seen as reward to a project for work done, but as a way to support the work being done at the moment.
While donating doesn't guarantee your issue will be addressed, withholding your donation until some features that is important to you is implemented or fixed will definitely not make that happen any quicker.

Hugehead

@Keneda

I did not mean to downgrade the work of anybody. I am not a developer and am not following specific MR or anything. Call me a USER I have my Oneplus here, no Fairphone or other devices to test - which i am struggling with for weeks and have no clue how to solve.
The 20.04 process in general is years behind* and there was no Q&A for many months, which gave me the feeling that there wasnt going on a lot and has been the reason i kindly asked for an Q&A.

To get a proper feeling of whats going on i asked also here to get an overview in the Q&A.

Sorry, if I bothered anyone.

*the 20.04 was mentioned in one Q&A as "maybe" christmas present, which is a long time ago already.

Mario.CH

Dear Arubislander
and Lakotaubp, DenMoore, Alan_g und Moem

With respect, we should be happy and thankful for each and every donor.
Instead of rebuking them for what reasons they have to donate.

With warm regards
Mario

mark1250

I recently discovered the droidian project which is also using libhybris and halium. Is there any collaboration between Ubuntu Touch and Droidian.

A Former User

@Aury88 Well I made a thread at: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/9292/bluetooth-gamepad-controller-support I got time but if the topic can find answer I'll be less anoying, sorry!

Josele13

@Mario-CH I don't see the writing as a reprimand, but nobody will know if you donate for one reason or another, if you like this project do what you have to do, there are many who don't donate because it's better to have two beers.

lduboeuf

Thanks for bringing Q&A again

What is the status of Maliit 2 integration to UT ?

A Former User

@Ottis I realized that this post wasent entended to me. Sorry I'm new!

A Former User

@Ottis https://forums.ubports.com/topic/9292/bluetooth-gamepad-controller-support

Keneda

@Hugehead
Please make a new thread in OP6 subforum to talk about your issues and get support.
We are off topic here now ^^

arubislander

@Mario-CH Far be it from me to tell anyone how and when to spend their money. I was simply pointing out an inconsistency in the expressed logic.

Say a potential donor would make their donation depend on a specific feature that might need some other seemingly unrelated but very labor intensive work to be done first. It is quite possible that work might need funding to get done. But that will not happen because the funding is being held up by the absence of the aforementioned dependent feature. A chicken and egg situation in which (in)action of the donor is unwittingly making it less likely that their desired feature will be developed.

Also, I am sure the project is extremely thankful for any actual donation, whenever, and for whatever reason it is given.
But what you, in effect, are demanding is gratitude for the mere expression of intent to donate.

Keneda

@UBportsNews
Any news on partnership with Fairphone, like if/when/where (for instance Murena) FP4 will be available for purchase in an Ubuntu Touch Edition ?

Optional, and maybe really too soon, would you, and Fairphone, be willing for a partnership also for FP5 ? (It's not a "will you port to device" question, I'm sure FP5 will be ported ~~soon or~~ later ️ )