Snap discussion.

Rinkeby · 3 Dec 2023, 18:46

Hello!

How is Snap working for you guys? I see little information here. And at the moment Snap doesnt work on my Volla yet. The snap installer need modify the kernel a bit, and that has not been done.

So, I turn to other people. Is it working? Is it great? Can you install the Snap apps they show on their webpage?

Maybe I live in a dream. But it seams like an amazing solution compared to Libertine?

arubislander · 3 Dec 2023, 21:41

@Rinkeby it works as well as can be expected at this stage.
Because of the high dpi of the devices the ui elements of most snap apps are tiny. There's a work around for that, but I haven't gotten around to finding it and testing it out.

Of course the apps are not touch optimized, but most work fairly well with a touch screen nonetheless.

A more pressing issue atm is that there is no on screen keyboard in the snap apps. So an external keyboard is a must have to use any app with text input.

Rinkeby · 3 Dec 2023, 23:56

@arubislander

I see! Thanks for the answer.

to me it sounds promising. As Libertine is just as bad with UI, more or less. The keyboard however. Hope it happens soon.

The UI part in general should be fixed. With math and/or AI redesigning the scale of things. Or just a repository of UI settings, themes and what not.

Hope to see something like that soon. Because that is the power of linux!

Schlicki2808 · 4 Dec 2023, 07:09

@Rinkeby I managed to scale up several snap applications with this terminal command:

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface text-scaling-factor 2.0

Apart from that, they are hard to use on a touch screen. But they run well on an external monitor and you will barely notice that you are using a smartphone
So, for an external monitor, I recommend not to scale up the GUI.

arubislander · 4 Dec 2023, 07:12

@Rinkeby said in Snap discussion.:

The UI part in general should be fixed. With math and/or AI redesigning the scale of things. Or just a repository of UI settings, themes and what not.

Nothing as complicated as that, thankfully. Iirc it is simply an environment variable that needs to be set.

Hope to see something like that soon. Because that is the power of linux!

Rather, the power of Linux (or Open Source in general) is that users of the software can jump in and make the change they want to see happen.

padraic · 4 Dec 2023, 08:23

@Schlicki2808 what snaps have you run successfully?

On my Oneplus5t...

I tried ro install Firefox, which didn't work.

I installed some cli Snaps which were fine: ponysay, nrich, fkill, qhttp

I installed the snap-store successfully but it doesn't rum visibly at least.

mihael · 4 Dec 2023, 08:49

On my oneplus 5T it says the kernel is ok, I click on Enable, it says that it's installing and then it reboots and then when I open the program nothing changed, it says the same things. I went through this twice, no progress.

padraic · 4 Dec 2023, 10:15

@mihael I installed SnapzOr via the open store and that set everything up. Did you try that?

I donr have the device on me so can't ofder any other advice unfortunately.

mihael · 4 Dec 2023, 10:34

@padraic Yes, from Open Store.

Schlicki2808 · 4 Dec 2023, 11:03

@padraic Remmina and Gimp are working fine on my Google Pixel 3a.

Btw. I also had initial problems after installing the app but I got help and could solve them. See here: https://github.com/fredldotme/snapz0r/issues/3

mihael · 4 Dec 2023, 13:25

I opened a new issue about my particular situation: https://github.com/fredldotme/snapz0r/issues/4

*update: issue solved, see link above.

Rinkeby · 4 Dec 2023, 15:06

@arubislander

It shouldnt be that komplicated. but that is how you automize it. As GUI always suffer in linux.

And the dynamics of linux is that you can tinker with everything. But the power of linux is its free code and programs. That or you underastimate the task of making Blender, Darktable. It takes years. So use it.

arubislander · 4 Dec 2023, 16:24

@Rinkeby I know how long it takes to write software which is featureful, and with a good UI. Especially the latter is quite difficult.

I just meant that you seemed to be saying the power of Linux was to sit back and hope that someone would come by and fix an issue that you were facing. While the true power is, as you yourself say, the possibility to jump in and explore, investigate and discover if one can solve the issue oneself.

Rinkeby · 4 Dec 2023, 16:47

@arubislander

Yes for sure. And I tinker a lot. But obviusly things I cant do either.

In fact, If I am going to contribute to the community better. Its going to be UI.

padraic · 4 Dec 2023, 23:54

@Schlicki2808 that's interesting, I can't install either of them on my Oneplus5t.

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mihael · 5 Dec 2023, 07:20

@padraic Same here. I opened this issue: https://github.com/fredldotme/snapz0r/issues/5
and: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/9636/can-t-get-any-snaps-installed

padraic · 5 Dec 2023, 19:36

@mihael maybe it's a kernel issue? I've no idea. Thanks for opening the issue.

Rinkeby · 6 Dec 2023, 15:42

Thanks for the discussion guys!

Gave me some insight of Snap. Its going to be a interesting future of that I think. Personally I have to wait for volla as kernel and such goes through them.

L-01072 · 8 Dec 2023, 15:03

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