Check on features before to buy/install FP5
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Thank you for your help.
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@rdfrs I'm not sure I understand your question, but I use 5G on my FP5 for surfing the web, chat messages etc. when I'm not on a wifi network, as long as there is a 5G connection available. Sometimes I only have 4G/LTE available where I am. I can use 5G on my phone (it switches automatically between 2G, 4G/LTE and 5G depending on what's available), or I can turn on the hotspot available in the network settings menu to make a wifi hotspot to connect my computer with and share internet access. It works very well.
5G is included in my regular phone plan that I pay for every month.
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@Ida_ thank you! That sounds perfect
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Bluetooth experience might still be the same or slightly improved. Honestly UT's bluetooth is kind of a hit or miss. Some devices work well on certain UT devices but some don't so it'll be like a lottery and depends on your luck
GPS works but still won't have AGPS which helps getting your initial location quickly. This is a general issue in UT. Best way to use GPS in UT is to try using mobile data and get out somewhere open and without a roof. Once you get the initial fix, it usually works fine.
As for idle battery drain, FP5 has recently got proper device sleep implementation which helps on this regard however it still has some quirks because of this. For example, Wifi can be finicky coming from a sleep. Also, FP5 has a weird bug where apps don't suspend even when in the background so this still adds to the battery drain if you have apps open. Now I'm thinking maybe the FP3 also has this bug?
Lastly, NFC works but UT doesn't really have any implementation of utilizing it yet so even if it works, connecting to your bluetooth device wouldn't work. Shouldn't it be possible to manually connect though?
In any case, I personally don't daily drive my FP5 yet. In my opinion, it's not ready yet, at least compared to the FP4 which is stable and works well for me.
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Honestly UT's bluetooth is kind of a hit or miss.
But I suppose that all FP5 works the same right? so if someone confirms it is working properly for hand-free calls, I should get the same result?
Now I'm thinking maybe the FP3 also has this bug?
Probably yes: I am closing all my apps after usage all the time, and when I forget to do it, I found my phone low very soon.
Also, the FP3+ has an issue that when I start the phone under 10%, it does not connect to the network (like if it has no SIM).
It also seems to drain the battery faster than some low-power USB-A chargers, even if I shutdown it (because in OFF, it still shows the bootloader while charging, which consume quite some power).
I found myself few times with my phone at 8%, the charger of my car and unable to make a simple call. Very annoying!Shouldn't it be possible to manually connect though?
Yes, that usually works for Audio output. NFC is just for convenience, maybe payments (never tried yet).
In any case, I personally don't daily drive my FP5 yet. In my opinion, it's not ready yet, at least compared to the FP4 which is stable and works well for me.
That is precisely why I am asking, because considering the UBPort page, it shows exactly like the FP4.
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”But I suppose that all FP5 works the same right? so if someone confirms it is working properly for hand-free calls, I should get the same result?
Yes, it should work similarly however it will still depend on the device you are connecting to. If it it works on the cars of others doesn't mean it'll work yours.
That is precisely why I am asking, because considering the UBPort page, it shows exactly like the FP4.
https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/fp5/There are nuances that won't be reflected in that list so it may seem like they're the same but the actual experience may be slightly different. I think the main factor right now is that the development of the FP5 is quite active so there are still many big changes such as the sleep behavior. There's no stable channel yet as well so you'll be stuck with the dev channel.
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My experience with Fairphone 5:
- Bluetooth:
Working in my car for receiving and sending calls. Works also connected to a Pebble watch.
- GPS:
Works for me, it takes 10 to 20 minutes to get a fix, in the open air or at the balcony of my place (1st floor of a building 9 floors high). Sometimes it takes longer, if I don't see a fix in 20 minutes I restart the phone.
- IDLE:
Using the current development image the battery lasts for the whole day, unless using Waydroid for too long. I haven't seen the background apps draining battery so far.
- NFC
I use it with Waydroid in the transport system of my city, no issues.
Calls: No issues, 5G or Volte are working.
SMS/MMS: SMS fine, I don't use MMS.
Waydroid: Very fluid, but it hangs often when put in the background. Not a big deal because it starts in seconds.
Connection to PC: No issues to mount the device in Linux, or connect with adb.
Wifi/network: Disconnects if moving between WIFI antenna, but otherwise no issues.
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@Ida_ @wgarcia
Any chance you can please shed some light on your Volte situation? Are you in EU/US? Is there a fallback 3g/2g in your area that may be connecting your calls?Really interested is some actual feedback on how this is working prior to purchasing this device. Here in the US there is no option for 3g calling, I recently read some mixed info online, bought a Pixel 3a XL to daily drive with Ubuntu Touch and found out I cant use my phone as phone the hard way.
Anything you can pass along would be really helpful. Thanks in advance!
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@Futura I'm located in Norway. Not EU. We have 2G fallback for a few more months on my network, but I've confirmed it is not falling back to 2G while calling. 3G has been gone for a while already. However, I don't remeber seeing reports of FP5 users in the US yet, I have no idea if the bands in use are compatible. I would wait for more reports and look into the specific bands used.
I believe there is a couple of Xiaomi phones confirmed to work over VoLTE in the US, have a look at the thread about reports of working VoLTE devices.
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@wgarcia
If you are using waydroid, could you make this test. (as you report very long time to fix gps postion)
Disable GPS (and move somewhere else).
Launch waydroid.
Run (after install) satStat.Settings reload AGPS.
Enable GPS.
Look at the connection time in waydroid and in UT.
