CardDav (contacts) support



  • Update on carddav subject makes me happy! 😄
    I keep hoping that feature to be added soon to UT OS to allow non dev users to switch to it.
    Syncing contact [to nextcloud] as easily as syncing calendar is the missing feature for working environment.



  • I just found this:
    https://github.com/UT-ilities/UTouch_CalDAV_and_CardDAV_synchronization

    Still a shell-script, but might make things a bit easier 🙂



  • Hopefully



  • I just returned after a few months pause to check out OTA 11:
    without native carddav support implemented for contacts (google goes without words) or generic carddav in accounts (system settings) UT is no daily driver option for me. I´ll give it another try in six months or so ...



  • @obacht said in CardDav (contacts) support:

    I just returned after a few months pause to check out OTA 11:
    without native carddav support implemented for contacts (google goes without words) or generic carddav in accounts (system settings) UT is no daily driver option for me. I´ll give it another try in six months or so ...

    Try the script I linked above, with Nextcloud at least it should work fine. But I guess since Nextcloud uses a fairly standard CardDAV implementation, others might work as well.

    Not ideal I agree, as it requires some text file editing... but not really difficult either.



  • @poVoq
    from what I know you need to run your own server in order to use nextcloud, isn`t that the case?



  • @obacht said in CardDav (contacts) support:

    @poVoq
    from what I know you need to run your own server in order to use nextcloud, isn`t that the case?

    It works with every carddav server - you just need to configure syncevolution via script or terminal - I wrote a howto for ownbay a long time ago which I could provide - you'll 'just' have to adapt the server an credentials to your needs... It's in German but according to your user name ;-)...



  • @obacht No, you have online free (or paid) services based on Nextcloud.



  • @obacht I use a free service from the good cloud. Nextcloud will give you options when you are setting up.



  • @Lakotaubp @AppLee
    that´s new to me, I´ll look into that, Thanks!
    @elastic
    you´re right, german is my mother tongue 🙂 I am not into scripting and stuff but I might come back to you and ask for your howto if I change my mind



  • So qtcontacts-sqlite seems to have landed in a branch:

    https://github.com/ubports/address-book-app/commit/db8681e0e694a03d6c95632dabb4910719925c95

    @mardy great to see some further progress on this. You think CardDAV might make it for OTA12?



  • it's a very old commit unfortunately, the 3 Nov 2018 ... but yeah, would be great.



  • @Thatoo said in CardDav (contacts) support:

    it's a very old commit unfortunately, the 3 Nov 2018 ... but yeah, would be great.

    Old PR but only now merged, so there is definitly some recent movement:
    https://github.com/ubports/address-book-app/commits/xenial_-_mercontacts



  • @poVoq you're right! So good to read that! Thanks for pointing it out (why didn't I get notification for your answer and I discover it now only? I have to check that out).



  • Would it be possible to have a following of this issue somewhere?
    More and more people are syncing their contacts with clouds like nextcloud and they rely on such feature.
    It is not possible to offer professional to switch to UT without this feature.

    An issue is open here ; https://github.com/ubports/address-book-app/issues/3
    and an other here : https://github.com/ubports/sync-monitor/issues/9
    and commits have been made in here https://github.com/ubports/address-book-app/commits/xenial_-_mercontacts but none have been merged.

    I feel like this feature isn't considered very important by devs (I guess they have no problem with the script) and I respect their work and choice between priorities. However today, I don't feel good. I follow UT project since it has started, I'm asking for this feature for long, long before Canonical gave up and I kept asking for it for the past three years.

    I supported Firefox OS...
    I supported UT...
    I bought BraveHearyt Pinephone to do testing, and now a PineTab for my mum. Can I ask my mum to sync her contacts with our nextcloud using a script? Seriously?
    I don't see why this very basic, important widely used feature is so considered as a leftover and in Q&A it is always question about MIR, Lomiri and other very very specific geeky things that not my mum, no other daily users need.



  • @Thatoo I am not one of the devs but please allow me to respond.

    You are completely right that contacts sync is very important and that it's current state is bad. However you are wrong in thinking that MIR and Lomiri are geeky and not used by your mum. In fact everybody uses them and without them there is no Ubuntu Touch.

    Unfortunately the current state of affairs is that the few devs have to spend all their resources to developping the base system and do not have much left to work on higher layers like contacts sync.

    As this is a community project you will have to work on it yourself or wait until somebody else will.

    Me I would like to read a book and listen to the music files on my dlna server. As this could not be done I had to start working on my own app and fixing/extending various parts of ubuntu touch (led, gestures, media-hub).

    Sorry I cannot help you making you feel better but I hope you can understand why things are as they are now.



  • I know... but I first asked about carddav sync in 2014 (OTA 3 I guess), today I had so much trouble explaining this pbm to my mum showing how it works on Pinephone that I almost gave up and wanted to wait for /e/ to come to PineTab and forget about UT... Everybody knows android so switching to /e/ looks much more easier now that it's there... I feel lonely explaining the interest of UT around me but at the same time having to show this limit as soon as I install it. It gives them a bad image of it and it gives me a bad feeling and well this morning I was tired to "preach"....



  • @Thatoo said in CardDav (contacts) support:

    I bought BraveHearyt Pinephone to do testing, and now a PineTab for my mum. Can I ask my mum to sync her contacts with our nextcloud using a script? Seriously?

    You may be able to do this for her from time to time via ssh or have the script run automatically via a cron task on the PineTab.

    I don't see why this very basic, important widely used feature is so considered as a leftover and in Q&A it is always question about MIR, Lomiri and other very very specific geeky things that not my mum, no other daily users need.

    Low layer softwares are less visible but used by far more users than specific software like a GUI for activate Cardav synchronisation.



  • @Thatoo there are plenty of little niggles for everybody, no video calling application for example, thats important for a lot of people, especially during lockdown.

    no notifications from signal, camera doesn't have a lot of advanced features, music playback skips around a bit, bluetooth can be hit or miss, and a million other bugs that you can see on github, many are before the UBports take over.

    some issues are more important to others, personally, I use my phone for music all the time, and need it to work when I'm out and about, I can easily import my contacts from a file, and not touch it for months, so cardDav would be useful, it'd only be useful for me on a rare occasion, but music playback affects my daily life.

    for you this maybe the other way around, where contacts are always changing , and you never listen to music on the go, and so the music fixes wont affect you.

    you also talk about mir and lomiri, contact sync wouldn't matter without mirror and lomiri, because nore you or your mother would beable to get to your contacts even if they where there.

    The pinephone and pinetab have a lot of OS porting issues currently to, the core developers focus should be getting the os running well with the hardware working nicely on the PinePhone and PineTab, and then theres focus on other big leaps like the move to Ubuntu 20.04 etc.

    other devs can work on the code to fix syncing and bug those who have power to merge the changes, but the core developers have to much on there plate to worry about.

    I'm not saying don't ask, and don't try, but ask on the next Q&A forum post and Dalton might be able to direct you to who you should ask, or what the best option for you is when it comes to syncing.

    you wont get an answer if you don't ask.



  • Sorry for asking...
    Everybody does its best, I'm sure.
    Good day, good by,


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