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    Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch

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        gpatel-fr @mango
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        @mango

        I'm not sure that @danfro's answer is painting a full picture.
        In fact, I'd say that the main current development effort may bring accessibility improvements.

        Most of the work around accessibility is not done by individual unpaid developers, but by professionnal devs working to develop the framework that the individual developers are widely using to help them. In the case of native UT applications, the framework is QT.

        The bulk of the work done currently with UT is to upgrade the framework from QT5 to QT6.

        Although this is done because QT5 is now obsolete and unsupported, this will bring the general improvements done in QT6 to support better accessibility. In your case, this means the flexbox layout that allows developers to design redimensioning interfaces more easily.

        What you could do to help is reading about the works of people more advanced in accessibility with QT6 than UT, I mean KDE, and look at the things they have already done, because that's where the easier part to do is, and as such can be a beginning. Most enormous work has been done not in a mammoth project with big resources, but slowly over years. The important part is to actually begin. If the settings do not exist in the UI, it's not so important. What the UI does is mostly calling an interface to change the settings, gsettings, that can be also called from the command line. As UT relies on an existing distro, the APIs to set accessibility features may already exist. That don't mean that all will work automatically, but identifying what should work and don't is called bug searching. Once it's a bug, it can be added to the big TODO list (gitlab issues).

        After all that, it's sure that devs will not work automatically on bugs that don't inspire them.
        But something more meaty than a forum post could trigger some progress.

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          danfro @pparent
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          @pparent Looks like its somehow working with a config file: https://gitlab.com/myii/ut-tweak-tool/-/blob/master/src/app/qml/behaviourTab/LomiriScaling.qml?ref_type=heads#L32

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            danfro @gpatel-fr
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            @gpatel-fr I do admit, I didn't look into Qt6 yet. Maybe that will bring us ways to improve. And you are right, since we use components like Qt or Ubuntu, there are professionals working on that. But it still needs people to make use of it in UT.

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              gpatel-fr @danfro
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              @danfro said in Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch:

              working with a config file:

              Thanks for this hint, I stand corrected, I was thinking that settings in UT were done via a dbus mechanism covered by the gsettings interface - dbus allows to notify running applications of the change, an environment variable does not. So setting this value will not apply to running applications, leading to inconsistencies between applications if started before or after the change.

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                pparent @danfro
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                @danfro said in Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch:

                Looks like its somehow working with a config file

                But I don't have the authorizations to access a config file of another app from within an app like Signal UT? Is there another way to get the value, compatible with a confined app?

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                  danfro @gpatel-fr
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                  @gpatel-fr We certainly can als use gsettings. I made a proof of concept for ThemeSwitch app a while ago (https://gitlab.com/Danfro/themeswitch/-/tree/gsetting_focal?ref_type=heads).

                  I am almost sure we can't use other apps values without loosing confinement. The value would need to be provided by the system. I guess if GRID_UNIT_PX could be changed in system settings and apps read that, that might work. Or it may need another apparmor rule. But I am really not that knowledgable to answer all details.

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                    richarddb
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                    Is there a dark mode option? In the settings I cannot select it (no reaction from the listbox)

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                      pparent @richarddb
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                      @richarddb said in Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch:

                      Is there a dark mode option? In the settings I cannot select it (no reaction from the listbox)

                      https://forums.ubports.com/post/90336

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                        pparent
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                        Thanks to @messayisto I now have a second phone to test 24.04-2.x , and why the keyboard does not work there.

                        From what I see the gtk maliit input context module loads well , and receives the events corresponding to keyboard opening.

                        Probably there were modifications made in the Maliit server in the system, and it does not connect well anymore with the gtk maliit input context, which is not very normal as we don't have any more recent version.

                        I might contact developers on telegram about that, to know a bit more what has been changed.

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                          gpatel-fr @pparent
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                          @pparent

                          this could be linked to this change:

                          https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/packaging/maliit-framework/-/commit/6bd655621fea66af7b9bb3a477b9de072b4939db

                          if it is, you may find warnings such as 'Application attempted to activate itself without focus' in the journal.

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                            autostatic
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                            Hello,

                            After having installed Signal UT on a Fairphone 5 with Ubuntu Touch 24.04.1 the shortcut in the Lomiri menu for the app is called "X11 support" with an X icon. Is there something I could do about that? I assume it's supposed to be a Signal icon with a designation like "Signal UT". Thanks!

                            Jeremy

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                              pparent @autostatic
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                              @autostatic

                              Have you read the "tips and tricks" section in the description of the app?

                              " You will only be able to pin the app icon to the system left menu, while you're on the microphone permission page, or while exporting a file to contentHub and selecting the app. "

                              Does it answer your question?

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                                autostatic @pparent
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                                @pparent Thanks for getting back to me so fast! And thanks for providing the app! Pinning the app when I'm in System Settings - Security & Privacy - App permissions - Microphone doesn't make a difference. Exporting a file to the content hub can be done with opening File manager, selecting a file and then selecting "Open with another app" and then selecting Signal UT? That doesn't work either. Also when I rotate the screen I see "X11 support" on top on the left. With other apps this name on the top left corresponds with the actual name of the app.

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                                  autostatic @pparent
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                                  @pparent I would also like to hide the top menu but I can't access File - Preferences - General - System - Hide menu bar. If I click on an item in the menu bar the app shifts a little but shows no dropdown entries.

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                                    Ida_ @autostatic
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                                    @autostatic I also missed the fine print while installing Signal UT the first time. I solved this by removing the app and then reinstalling and pinning the icon while I was asked for permission during installation.

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                                      pparent @Ida_
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                                      @ida_ @autostatic

                                      You can pin the app while you are exporting a file and while you're on the page to select an app to export to. Just swipe left at that moment, and you will see Signal is in the task bar, pin it then!

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                                        autostatic @pparent
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                                        @pparent Thanks, but where can I export a file? Is "Open with another app" exporting? If I do this and swipe to the left I don't see a Signal UT icon, I get the app pager then. If I select Signal UT in the "Open with" window the X.Org logo appears again after a while. When I do this with Signal UT open it crashes by the way.

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                                          autostatic @Ida_
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                                          @Ida_ Thanks! But I also tried reinstalling which didn't make a difference. If I uninstall the app the Microphone permission gets removed but when I reinstall again I'm not being asked for granting permissions and the Microphone permission gets added automatically.

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                                            autostatic @autostatic
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                                            If I reinstall after having disabled Microphone permissions for Signal UT I don't get asked anything either.

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                                              pparent @autostatic
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                                              @autostatic said in Signal UT: Signal-Desktop for Ubuntu Touch:

                                              Thanks, but where can I export a file?

                                              Well you go to a picture in on of your chats and click on the download icon, you should see a window with title "Export File" that appears, and with a grid of applications to open to image with (Signal will not be part of these apps, tipicaly you will have the Galery app, the file manager, ect....).

                                              The X.Org logo won't disappear, nothing can be done about that now, but the Signal icon should appear in the left bar while you're choosing the app to export to, and at that moment you can pin it.

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